[Imports] [OSM-talk] tag with value lists Was: Proposed mechanical edit to convert alt_name tags

Jason Remillard remillard.jason at gmail.com
Mon Sep 8 23:33:38 UTC 2014


Hi Andrew,

By my count, we have 25,000 instances of ";" in name, 5,600 instances
of ";" in alt_name, versus 2500 instances of alt_name_1, and 1000
instances of alt_name_2. A 30:1 difference in usage. Looks to me like
the community has in fact decided the ;  is preferred over alt_name_1.
I suggest you convert to the bad alt_name:1 tags into alt_name with
";" .

Tagging is on topic when discussing imports and mechanical edits.

Generally, consultations periods for mechanical edits should take at
least week or two.

Jason

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Andrew Buck <andrew.r.buck at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 09/08/2014 05:44 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:00 AM, Florian Lohoff <f at zz.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Isnt the semicolon the list seperator typically used in OSM? My
>>> intuitive answer would have been alt_name=a;b;c;d
>>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> I think using a semicolon-delimited list is better than a
>> potentially open-ended set of keys such as "alt_name_x", and
>> already has precedent. While it is true that semicolon as a
>> multi-value separator is not written as a "law" of OSM tagging, it
>> is quite frequent enough to be a de facto tagging guideline.
>>
>
> Both systems are in use and were in use before we started working on
> this GNS stuff.  The tiger tags are one example, but there were
> alt_name_N tags before we started as well.  If you want to have a
> discussion about changing all of these worldwide, that is fine, but
> this thread is about fixing the alt_name:2 ones.
>
> Please either weigh in on that, or keep silent.  I do not have time to
> have a general discussion about broader topics of how multi-valued
> keys should be handled.  There have been dozens of threads that
> discussed that and no one has ever come up with a good solution, so I
> am not going to have this thread get dragged into the same discussion
> that has been had many times before.
>
> There has been one person who has said it makes sense to change them,
> and all of the other posts have been about discussion of other topics.
>  So unless someone has some concrete reason _not_ to convert the few
> mistaken ones, I will go ahead and do that.  We can have these other
> discussions some other time when people are not waiting on the results.
>
> - -AndrewBuck
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