[Imports] Ottawa Bike Parking Import

Clark Trivers Clark at oced.ca
Thu Sep 25 14:44:41 UTC 2014


Thanks guys - This is my first crack at an import and I really appreciate your advice and help. I'll set a wiki up and check in thereafter.


Cheers,


Clark

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From: Elliott Plack <elliott.plack at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 10:40 AM
To: Andy Allan
Cc: Clark Trivers; Imports OpenStreetMap.org
Subject: Re: [Imports] Ottawa Bike Parking Import

Andy,

Thanks for the response. Please forgive my enthusiasm, and you're quite right that proper documentation is a must, as well as considering the existing data. I ran a query and there are quite a few existing installations on OSM. Map: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/5b3

I should start by saying I only jumped in in the middle of the project to help Clark with the data. I've never even been to Ottawa. I had assumed that some due diligence had already taken place, like checking for existing data etc. If it were my project, I would have ran the query, got the existing data, and compared that before even posting anything here.

And I was wrong to say it was a "few clicks." That is never true. :) If the data was conflated, verified, and accurate, it would be, but there'd be much work (and clicks) to get to that point.

Clark: Definitely write up a wiki on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page. Detail the source of the data, licenses, community support and how to tackle existing data.

Kindly,

Elliott

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Andy Allan <gravitystorm at gmail.com<mailto:gravitystorm at gmail.com>> wrote:
On 24 September 2014 22:31, Elliott Plack <elliott.plack at gmail.com<mailto:elliott.plack at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Clark,
>
> Quick tip, always reply all to these list emails so it goes back into the
> list.
>
> Definitely use the PNG! I'll license it as CC0.
>
> For approval we should wait a few days for others to comment. Also we'll
> want to check if there's any existing data that would be duplicated.
>
> I can do the import for you too, no problem. It's just a few clicks.
>
> Finally you'll want to write a wiki page on the OSM wiki. Just summarize
> what you said in the first email.

I think you've got it back-to-front - there's no way that anyone can
review this *before* you write the wiki page!

Also, I just had a quick look. From your image I count at least 7 bike
parking images within a few metres of the intersection of Bank and
Queen Street, but when I look at google street view I see only bikes
chained to trees and some railings outside a bank - further away
there's some actual parking infrastructure but it's not clear to me
how they all correspond and what counts as "parking" here. Again,
questions to answer on a wiki page are required.

There's already existing bike parking in Ottawa, so there will need to
be some sort of merging/de-duplication.

And finally, best not so say "It's just a few clicks" because
honestly, that's never the case, and secondly, it's not the attitude
we're trying to promote!

Thanks,
Andy



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Elliott Plack
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