[Imports] Uganda Bureau of Statistics educational facilities import

Rafael Avila Coya ravilacoya at gmail.com
Sat Jan 23 17:41:17 UTC 2016


Hi:

Although those names as "Primary School" and similar aren't mentioned in
the workflow wiki, it says that "In case of doubt, we won't make any
change to the name and we will leave a fixme="Please check the name
correctness" tag and a remark on the comments box of the task when we
mark it as done in the Tasking Manager". You can find that in step 2 of
the "Importing the educational facilities" section [1].

Those names are clearly not complete. But at least we should keep the
info they provide (it's a primary, or secondary, or nursery, etc.). The
fixme tag points users to what has to be fixed. Many schools are named
after the place (village, town...) where they are located, like Ayaa
Primary School for example.

Cheers,

Rafael.

[1]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Uganda/Import_Uganda_Bureau_Of_Statistics_Education_Facilities_Workflow#Importing_the_educational_facilities

On 23/01/16 14:58, Enock Seth Nyamador wrote:
> Thanks Jo.
> 
> Best,
> 
> - Enock
> UMaT, Tarkwa
> enockseth.github.io <http://enockseth.github.io/>
> 
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com
> <mailto:winfixit at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Enock,
> 
>     Technically I agree with you. At the moment I'm using those
>     indications in the name tags to determine the isced:level though.
> 
>     Would it be possible to put that into description instead and keep
>     the actual name in name?
> 
>     I'm creating a script to do some post processing (wikidata related).
>     I can add this sort of functionality there too. I suppose Rafael can
>     also adapt his script to do it at that level instead.
> 
>     I also noticed that sometimes it's abbreviated to Prim. or Sec.
>     (during validation). So those abbrevations should have been expanded.
> 
>     Kind regards,
> 
>     Polyglot
> 
>     2016-01-23 13:08 GMT+01:00 Enock Seth Nyamador <kwadzo459 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:kwadzo459 at gmail.com>>:
> 
>         Hi,
> 
>         Just a quick one.
> 
>         Came across some schools with names; Primary School and
>         Secondary School. This aren't names.
> 
>         What is best to do, just delete those tags? I would have removed
>         them, If I was mapping personally. But as this an import,
>         haven't seen anything related to it on the Wiki.
> 
>         Best,
> 
>         - Enock
>         UMaT, Tarkwa
>         enockseth.github.io <http://enockseth.github.io/>
> 
>         On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 3:50 AM, Rafael Avila Coya
>         <ravilacoya at gmail.com <mailto:ravilacoya at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>             Hi, Jo:
> 
>             Yes. It happens many times. As I said, it would be very nice
>             to have a
>             JOSM plugin that would address switching between a list of user
>             accounts. My vision would be of a simple plugin that would
>             allow to:
> 
>             1) Create a list of user accounts, instead of having only
>             place for one,
>             as it is with the JOSM standard Preferences.
> 
>             2) Easy button in the tools bar to switch between user accounts.
> 
>             3) A checkbox to decide if you want JOSM to warn you what's
>             the user you
>             are using when uploading the data to OSM. That means: you
>             hit the upload
>             button, and as a final step, JOSM tells you: you are
>             uploading with
>             Polyglot OSM user account. Accept? (and the typical "cancel"
>             and "Ok"
>             buttons).
> 
>             You have contributed lots of comments and great ideas, so I
>             am not going
>             to pressure you with contributing more. Anyway, although
>             it's a bit of a
>             nuissance, you will get used after a while. Many of us have
>             done this
>             since about 3 years ago for lots of manual imports! And, if
>             you get a
>             task with say 15 schools (I did yesterday one with 147!),
>             the time you
>             spend switching between user accounts is less than 1% of the
>             total.
> 
>             Cheers,
> 
>             Rafael.
> 
>             On 22/01/16 22:17, Jo wrote:
>             > I tried to use my import account. Failed to do it. The stuff that should
>             > have been uploaded with it, went up with my normal account. The
>             > subsequent non import stuff went up with my import account.
>             >
>             > It's too much of a hassle and yes I would need to switch back and forth
>             > between accounts constantly.
>             >
>             > So, I'll limit myself to doing validation work, until this silly rule
>             > gets finally lifted some day. I won't be holding my breath, no worries.
>             >
>             > Polyglot
>             >
>             > 2016-01-07 16:44 GMT+01:00 Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya at gmail.com <mailto:ravilacoya at gmail.com>
>             > <mailto:ravilacoya at gmail.com <mailto:ravilacoya at gmail.com>>>:
>             >
>             >     Hi, Enock:
>             >
>             >     Thank you for volunteering!
>             >
>             >     Yes, Geoffrey has given his opinions already, and he offered something
>             >     very key here: help from the local OSM community.
>             >
>             >     As I guess there are quite a number of active members in Kampala (for
>             >     example), it could be of unvaluable help for double checking on the
>             >     ground the facilities inside the city, as those are the mainly the only
>             >     ones hard to spot from imagery.
>             >
>             >     Cheers,
>             >
>             >     Rafael.
>             >
>             >     On 04/01/16 15:42, Enock Seth Nyamador wrote:
>             >     > Hi,
>             >     >
>             >     > Very long discussion here. Glad I was able to follow. I've copied
>             >     > Ugandan OSMer Geoffrey of Mapping Day Uganda[1] guess you might be
>             >     > interested in this.
>             >     >
>             >     > Am interested in volunteering for this import.
>             >     >
>             >     > Best,
>             >     >
>             >     > 1. http://www.mappingday.com
>             >     >
>             >     > - Enock
>             >     > UMaT, Tarkwa
>             >     > enockseth.github.io <http://enockseth.github.io>
>             <http://enockseth.github.io>
>             >     <http://enockseth.github.io/>
>             >     >
>             >     > On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com <mailto:winfixit at gmail.com>
>             <mailto:winfixit at gmail.com <mailto:winfixit at gmail.com>>
>             >     > <mailto:winfixit at gmail.com <mailto:winfixit at gmail.com>
>             <mailto:winfixit at gmail.com <mailto:winfixit at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>             >     >
>             >     >     Doing what I did in these 2 edits:
>             >     >     https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3925002632/history
>             >     >
>             >     >     would make the import a whole lot slower, as it would entail a lot
>             >     >     more research (and fiddling with Wikidata), but it would also make
>             >     >     the data even more useful.
>             >     >
>             >     >     If it were me, I'd add Wikidata items for each of these schools. I
>             >     >     can write a script that would make the process easier. I'm not sure
>             >     >     about license issues though. If I drag a node over Bing imagery and
>             >     >     upload it to Openstreetmap. Can I use those coordinates on Wikidata
>             >     >     if I mention the source properly? Or are they already ODBL and
>             >     >     therefore incompatible. That would be really annoying. It would mean
>             >     >     I have to make sure to add the coordinates to Wikidata first, and
>             >     >     only after doing that upload to Openstreetmap, but I want to mention
>             >     >     the source on Wikidata, so I need a reference url to the OSM object...
>             >     >
>             >     >     I think, at least for the schools with WP articles, it makes sense
>             >     >     to do this. For the others I think it makes sense as well, but it's
>             >     >     a lot more work. They would all get identifiers that way, which may
>             >     >     make later conflation easier.
>             >     >
>             >     >     Jo
>             >     >
>             >     >
>             >     >
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