[Imports] Bad imports

[malenki]

On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:52:33 +0100,
Jo wrote:

> Hi Thomas,
> 
> There are countries where living_street is part of the legislation
> concerning traffic (regulations). They are not merely places where
> pedestrians have priority over motor vehicles. There are also max
> speed limits (in Belgium 20km/h) for these zones. 

Going 20km/h in a living street would get you fines in Germany.
Additionally, German living streets are no-parking zones except where
there are designated parking spaces.

> There are also a few other consequences. I don't own a car, don't
> know them by heart. And then there is the city that has to make them
> look different, different sort of pavement, flower 'pots' so the cars
> have to zigzag, no explicit pedestrian zebra crossings.

In my neighbour town is a highway=residential with flower pots etc.

So we should invent new tags for living streets both in Belgium and
Germany, should we?

> That's what this tag was created for and that is its meaning, its full
> meaning.

I'd say the usual mappers don't map after looking up street regulation
and laws but what they see in front of them. What if some people stole
the signs to sell them as scrap? Without signs, there wouldn't be no
expression of the law, thus no street at all – would there?

By the way: I couldn't tell you if everywhere in my neighbour town
where highway=pedestrian is mapped a sign is placed – but I /know/ the
pedestrian areas are there from just seeing them.

> To use it now for streets where you risk being assaulted if you don't
> give priority to pedestrians is not wat is was intended for, hence
> the need for a separate tag.

In Germany you get fined by officials, elsewhere maybe by the people in
general. Do you want to map this difference?

> That all the streets which were tagged in error need to be retagged
> is not an argument for not attempting to fix the wrong use of that
> tag. Even when there are lots of them.

I still don't see why living streets shouldn't be living streets.
Of course, if (like in this example) Haïti has "real" living streets
described in laws and other ones defined by the behaviour of the people
I'd agree.

For describing the varying appearance of a certain OSM highway class
in different countries this page (amongst some others) exists
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway:International_equivalence
or like Sander sais
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa

Best regards
Thomas