[Imports] Province of Biella open data import

Andrea Musuruane musuruan at gmail.com
Wed Nov 23 13:31:07 UTC 2016


There is PDF document shipped with every dataset where you can read:
"La titolarità piena ed esclusiva del dato
XXXX
è della Provincia di Biella (ai sensi della L. 633/41 e s.m.i.)."

Translation:
"Full and exclusive ownership of the data
XXXX
belongs to the Province of Biella (according to Italian law 633/41 and
subsequent modifications and integrations). "

Law 633/41 is the Italian copyright law.

Therefore they have full rights to the dataset.

Please confirm all licensing issues are now closed and that there is
no other obstacle for the import.

Bye,

Andrea


On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:07 PM, James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
> You need to ask the data provider if they hold all the rights(licensing and
> distribution) to the dataset. (There are apparently many examples of this
> causing issues in the UK)
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 8:00 AM, Andrea Musuruane <musuruan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> How did you verify that in past imports?
>>
>> Bye,
>>
>> Andrea
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 1:52 PM, James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Also part of the ODBL(its actually written in the license) is to make
>> > sure
>> > the dataset holder has full rights on the dataset and not just releasing
>> > a
>> > 3rd parties dataset(i.e. a city contracted external firm. External firm
>> > has
>> > the licensing rights and the city only has the rights to the dataset)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Nov 21, 2016 7:42 AM, "Andrea Musuruane" <musuruan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi James,
>> >>       I already said that the only problem there can be with the CC-BY
>> >> license is the attribution.
>> >>
>> >> And therefore, I already asked express permission from the data owner:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> https://github.com/musuruan/osm_imports/blob/master/prov_bi/sita_biella_cc_by_3.txt
>> >> (also linked in the wiki).
>> >>
>> >> > Inoltre, vorrei sapere se per voi l'attribuzione sulla pagina
>> >> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors è sufficiente per
>> >> > rispettare la clausola di attribuzione della licenza CC-BY, nel caso
>> >> > in cui alcuni dei dati cartografici da voi distribuiti fossero
>> >> > importati in OpenStreetMap.
>> >>
>> >> And the reply was:
>> >>
>> >> I nostri dati sono associati a licenza di tipo CC BY 3.0 IT e riteniamo
>> >> che la sua proposta di attribuzione alla pagine wiki di openstreetmap
>> >> soddisfi le condizioni di licenza.
>> >>
>> >> So, for me everything is fine. We can put the attribution in the
>> >> Contributors page and we are not required to include it with the data.
>> >>
>> >> If not, please explain.
>> >>
>> >> Bye,
>> >>
>> >> Andrea
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 1:00 PM, James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > It mostly has to do with attribution that has to be included with the
>> >> > data(not feasable). We need express permission to know that we can
>> >> > include
>> >> > the data with no challenges for the future.
>> >> >
>> >> > See here:
>> >> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility
>> >> >
>> >> > Cc-by is only compatible with ODBL if the licensor gives explicive
>> >> > permission to include the data into osm, which we can give them
>> >> > attribution
>> >> > on the contributors wikipage(indirect attribution)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Nov 21, 2016 6:29 AM, "Andrea Musuruane" <musuruan at gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Walter,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Walter Nordmann <wnordmann at gmx.de>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Data license:
>> >> >> > https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/it/legalcode
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Type of license: CC-BY-3.0 IT
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > i think, that will be a big problem.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > usually cc-by is NOT compatible with OdBL.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why? Can you clarify?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> AFAIK CC-BY licenses only requires correct attribution.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Moreover, I see a long list of CC-BY licenses here:
>> >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And it seems they were all fine.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > You should try to get ( better: Must get) a written special
>> >> >> > permission
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > OSM.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Two lines below:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Additional statement by the Province of Biella:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://github.com/musuruan/osm_imports/blob/master/prov_bi/sita_biella_cc_by_3.txt
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "I nostri dati sono associati a licenza di tipo CC BY 3.0 IT e
>> >> >> riteniamo
>> >> >> che la sua proposta di attribuzione alla pagine wiki di
>> >> >> openstreetmap
>> >> >> soddisfi le condizioni di licenza."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Translation:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Our data are licensed under CC BY 3.0 IT and we believe your
>> >> >> proposal
>> >> >> to give attribution in the openstreetmap wiki pages
>> >> >> meets the licensing conditions."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bye,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Andrea
>> >> >>
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