[Imports] Province of Biella open data import

James james2432 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 23 14:39:25 UTC 2016


Then I don't see an issue on the licensing end anyways.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Andrea Musuruane <musuruan at gmail.com>
wrote:

> There is PDF document shipped with every dataset where you can read:
> "La titolarità piena ed esclusiva del dato
> XXXX
> è della Provincia di Biella (ai sensi della L. 633/41 e s.m.i.)."
>
> Translation:
> "Full and exclusive ownership of the data
> XXXX
> belongs to the Province of Biella (according to Italian law 633/41 and
> subsequent modifications and integrations). "
>
> Law 633/41 is the Italian copyright law.
>
> Therefore they have full rights to the dataset.
>
> Please confirm all licensing issues are now closed and that there is
> no other obstacle for the import.
>
> Bye,
>
> Andrea
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:07 PM, James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > You need to ask the data provider if they hold all the rights(licensing
> and
> > distribution) to the dataset. (There are apparently many examples of this
> > causing issues in the UK)
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 8:00 AM, Andrea Musuruane <musuruan at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> How did you verify that in past imports?
> >>
> >> Bye,
> >>
> >> Andrea
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 1:52 PM, James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Also part of the ODBL(its actually written in the license) is to make
> >> > sure
> >> > the dataset holder has full rights on the dataset and not just
> releasing
> >> > a
> >> > 3rd parties dataset(i.e. a city contracted external firm. External
> firm
> >> > has
> >> > the licensing rights and the city only has the rights to the dataset)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Nov 21, 2016 7:42 AM, "Andrea Musuruane" <musuruan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi James,
> >> >>       I already said that the only problem there can be with the
> CC-BY
> >> >> license is the attribution.
> >> >>
> >> >> And therefore, I already asked express permission from the data
> owner:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> https://github.com/musuruan/osm_imports/blob/master/prov_
> bi/sita_biella_cc_by_3.txt
> >> >> (also linked in the wiki).
> >> >>
> >> >> > Inoltre, vorrei sapere se per voi l'attribuzione sulla pagina
> >> >> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors è sufficiente per
> >> >> > rispettare la clausola di attribuzione della licenza CC-BY, nel
> caso
> >> >> > in cui alcuni dei dati cartografici da voi distribuiti fossero
> >> >> > importati in OpenStreetMap.
> >> >>
> >> >> And the reply was:
> >> >>
> >> >> I nostri dati sono associati a licenza di tipo CC BY 3.0 IT e
> riteniamo
> >> >> che la sua proposta di attribuzione alla pagine wiki di openstreetmap
> >> >> soddisfi le condizioni di licenza.
> >> >>
> >> >> So, for me everything is fine. We can put the attribution in the
> >> >> Contributors page and we are not required to include it with the
> data.
> >> >>
> >> >> If not, please explain.
> >> >>
> >> >> Bye,
> >> >>
> >> >> Andrea
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 1:00 PM, James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > It mostly has to do with attribution that has to be included with
> the
> >> >> > data(not feasable). We need express permission to know that we can
> >> >> > include
> >> >> > the data with no challenges for the future.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > See here:
> >> >> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cc-by is only compatible with ODBL if the licensor gives explicive
> >> >> > permission to include the data into osm, which we can give them
> >> >> > attribution
> >> >> > on the contributors wikipage(indirect attribution)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Nov 21, 2016 6:29 AM, "Andrea Musuruane" <musuruan at gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hi Walter,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Walter Nordmann <
> wnordmann at gmx.de>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Data license:
> >> >> >> > https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/it/legalcode
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Type of license: CC-BY-3.0 IT
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > i think, that will be a big problem.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > usually cc-by is NOT compatible with OdBL.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Why? Can you clarify?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> AFAIK CC-BY licenses only requires correct attribution.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Moreover, I see a long list of CC-BY licenses here:
> >> >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> And it seems they were all fine.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > You should try to get ( better: Must get) a written special
> >> >> >> > permission
> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> > OSM.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Two lines below:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Additional statement by the Province of Biella:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> https://github.com/musuruan/osm_imports/blob/master/prov_
> bi/sita_biella_cc_by_3.txt
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "I nostri dati sono associati a licenza di tipo CC BY 3.0 IT e
> >> >> >> riteniamo
> >> >> >> che la sua proposta di attribuzione alla pagine wiki di
> >> >> >> openstreetmap
> >> >> >> soddisfi le condizioni di licenza."
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Translation:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Our data are licensed under CC BY 3.0 IT and we believe your
> >> >> >> proposal
> >> >> >> to give attribution in the openstreetmap wiki pages
> >> >> >> meets the licensing conditions."
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Bye,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Andrea
> >> >> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
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>



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