[Imports] Walmart import

James james2432 at gmail.com
Sat Dec 16 00:21:13 UTC 2017

As Ian said there's only two "classes" of walmarts, Supercentres which
include fresh produce and other fresh groceries. Regular walmarts will only
have frozen sections. I believe most walmarts are transitionning to become
"supercentres" to compete with grocery stores, atleast that's what I've
noticed in Canada

On Dec 15, 2017 7:14 PM, "Ian Dees" <ian.dees at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Frederik,
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> On 12/15/2017 11:31 PM, Damian Rollison wrote:
>> > We ask that you please take a look at the data at the following site and
>> > check the tagging and locations:
>> I have little knowledge of Walmart and therefore should leave the floor
>> to  people with local knowledge. I see that another commenter has
>> already assessed your contribution to be superior with no questions
>> asked within an amazingly short time. I hope you will find more diligent
>> reviewers like him; careful reviews like that are what make an import a
>> success for both businesses and the community.
> I don't really appreciate the quiet insults you're throwing at me here.
> It's still negative and condescending even if you don't say my name.
> If you read my response I said that it looks great (it does!), that
> they're doing it the right way (they're following the import guidelines to
> a greater degree than the SEO spammers and many others - including
> longstanding members of the community), and that it seems like a vast
> improvement over what we already have (it is! Useful new data like opening
> hours is being added).
> On top of that, Damian is from a commercial data provider that is (a)
> worked with Ilya to build an excellent user interface to review the
> proposed data, (c) converted opening hours formats properly in the cases
> I've seen, and (d) did an above average job merging with existing data.
>> I have randomly selected only one of the > 4000 objects from the browse
>> link (http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/nampa.jpg) and have the
>> following observations/questions, but ultimately this is of course
>> something the US community should decide and I'm an ocean away.
>> 1. Do you happen to have building outlines too, or is there a process by
>> which whoever adds the thing to OSM can quickly add the building outline
>> from aerial imagery? It seems like not too much extra work, if one looks
>> at 4000 POIs anyway, to quickly trace a building to go with it.
>> 2. In my particular example, there seems to be a pharmacy in OSM that is
>> mapped separately, but also called "Wal-Mart". The import does nothing
>> to the pharmacy. I don't know if all Wal-Marts have a pharmacy - the
>> pharmacy POI is certainly within the Wal-Mart building. Is that a
>> completely separate issue, or would e.g. your opening times information
>> apply to the pharmacy as well?
> Pharmacies in Wal-Marts and other large shopping buildings like this
> usually have different hours, different phone numbers, etc. It makes sense
> to me that they would have separate nodes inside a building polygon.
>> 3. Personally I am a bit skeptical about the shop names; I see that in
>> my example you are changing "Wal-Mart" to "Walmart Supercenter" and I
>> assume that Wal-Mart will, like many other chains, have different
>> classes of supermarkets and will have different trade names for these -
>> super, hyper, metro, local, whatever. I'm not sure if these
>> chain-specific denominations are really desirable to have in the name
>> tag; they seem to me to be more a marketing tool than anything else. I
>> have checked Google Street View for this particular Walmart bulding and
>> the sign on the building just says "Walmart", not "Walmart Supercenter".
>> I would probably be tempted to map it as such - i.e. "name=Walmart", not
>> "name=Walmart Supercenter". (It's also easier on the map - a longer name
>> runs a higher risk of being dropped due to space constraints.)
> A Wal-Mart Supercenter is a bigger Wal-Mart with more features (they
> usually have a supermarket, for example). I imagine the one you looked at
> has been upgraded since the streetview was captured. More information about
> the various brandings of Wal-Mart can be found with a simple scan of their
> Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walmart#Walmart_U.S.
>> 4. In my particular example, you have set an "addr:full" tag that
>> contains the street and house number, but you have not set
>> "addr:housenumber" or "addr:street". What we would normally do is have
>> "addr:housenumber" and "addr:street" (where we would neither abbreviate
>> the "East" nor the "Road" in "East Franklin Road"), and the "addr:full"
>> is optional. If "addr:full" is used (which is completely optional), it
>> would normally contain city and post code as well.
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