[Imports] Walmart import

Greg Morgan dr.kludge.gm at gmail.com
Wed Dec 27 23:13:36 UTC 2017

Daminan and Ilya,

Thank you very much for this kind of effort.  I tend to not map business
POIs any more.  I'll add the address to a building polygon but not the
business information because of volatility.  I spent too much time after
the sub-prime rate debacle cleaning up failed companies. I don't want to
maintain more of the same.  Oh! But this is genius.  There is a ref:walmart
in the data.  You all can update the information as needed.  There is no
way that I can keep this kind of data accurate.  Moreover, there was a
bunch of SEO spam that was added in my area.  It wasn't even useful and was
deleted.  This project looks like a wonderful collaboration by working with
the community.   All the new information added to these POIs is similar to
what I do with KeepRight corrections or OSM Inspector corrections.

What I really like is that you have the addr:city, addr:country, and
addr:postcode tags set.  Sometimes that is hard to come by.  I see no
problem with the addr:full tag being used.  I found that the SEO spammers
or even new mappers will try to shove the address in to addr:housenumber or
addr:street.  If we can get the address code from balrog-kun or emacsen,
then we can come back later to expand addr:full to the other missing street
components.  I wouldn't let addr:full be a show stopper.  addr:full is a
perfectly valid tag in its own right.



Serge Wroclawski (emacsen)

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Damian Rollison <drollison at brandify.com>
> Hello to everyone on this thread, and thank you for the encouraging
comments and helpful suggestions! I'm glad to see how active you all are in
ensuring the OSM dataset is maintained at the highest quality.
> As you know, Ilya has kindly offered his help in working through the
import process with the OSM community. We'll be consulting with Ilya to
take those suggestions we can act upon and use them to improve the data.
> Assuming we are able to establish a relatively smooth and timely process
with this import, we have many thousands of brand-sourced POIs we would
like to add to OSM, both in the US and internationally. It's our job to
represent store locations as accurately and thoroughly as possible, so I
hope the community will find our contributions valuable.
> Looking forward to a great relationship,
> Damian
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 5:07 AM, Mike N <niceman at att.net> wrote:
>> On 12/16/2017 8:01 AM, Ilya Zverev wrote:
>>> OSM Conflator works only with nodes, except when it updates tags on
>>> polygons. If you like mapping building outlines, please do a challenge
>>> for MapRoulette after this import. Brandify doesn't have building
>>   A post-import MapRoulette challenge would make sense.  A natural
progression when adding SuperCenter store detail is to add the POIs as
separate nodes.   It should be no problem when adding them first except
that the address would logically belong to the building unless the embedded
stores have their own unit/suite number.
>>> De-abbreviating street names and distinguishing "Fourth Street of Oaks"
>>> from "4, Street of Oaks" is a very complex task, and unrelated to the
>>> importing subject. I thought the street address from the source data
>>> would be better added to some tag on an object, but without touching
>>> addr:street and addr:housenumber. And addr:full looks good for this.
>>> There is no rules for this tag, and city and country are usually
>>> geocoded, so the value can help when searching.
>>   The nearby OpenStreetMap road name could help since it's already in
the proper form.   But there are also many US or state Highways that
haven't been set to a usable address name: for example the street and post
office address would be "Highway 244" but the nearby US244 only has a ref
but no name, or it is named "United States Highway 244".
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