[Imports] Walmart import

Greg Morgan dr.kludge.gm at gmail.com
Wed Dec 27 23:24:08 UTC 2017


On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Greg Morgan <dr.kludge.gm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Daminan and Ilya,
>
> Thank you very much for this kind of effort.  I tend to not map business
> POIs any more.  I'll add the address to a building polygon but not the
> business information because of volatility.  I spent too much time after
> the sub-prime rate debacle cleaning up failed companies. I don't want to
> maintain more of the same.  Oh! But this is genius.  There is a ref:walmart
> in the data.  You all can update the information as needed.  There is no
> way that I can keep this kind of data accurate.  Moreover, there was a
> bunch of SEO spam that was added in my area.  It wasn't even useful and was
> deleted.  This project looks like a wonderful collaboration by working with
> the community.   All the new information added to these POIs is similar to
> what I do with KeepRight corrections or OSM Inspector corrections.
>
> What I really like is that you have the addr:city, addr:country, and
> addr:postcode tags set.  Sometimes that is hard to come by.  I see no
> problem with the addr:full tag being used.  I found that the SEO spammers
> or even new mappers will try to shove the address in to addr:housenumber or
> addr:street.  If we can get the address code from balrog-kun or emacsen,
> then we can come back later to expand addr:full to the other missing street
> components.  I wouldn't let addr:full be a show stopper.  addr:full is a
> perfectly valid tag in its own right.
>
> http://ksmapper.blogspot.com/2011/05/main-attraction.html
>
> balrog-kun
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2010-July/003760.html
>

balrog-kun is/was one of my heroes.  I did not have to manually make all
those name expansions!!!  Here is his code that operated on the western
part of the US.
https://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/applications/utils/import/tiger2osm/expand/expand.py


>
>
> Serge Wroclawski (emacsen)
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mappingdc/rB0U0aWmFwY
> https://github.com/emacsen/tiger-expansion
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Damian Rollison <drollison at brandify.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello to everyone on this thread, and thank you for the encouraging
> comments and helpful suggestions! I'm glad to see how active you all are in
> ensuring the OSM dataset is maintained at the highest quality.
> >
> > As you know, Ilya has kindly offered his help in working through the
> import process with the OSM community. We'll be consulting with Ilya to
> take those suggestions we can act upon and use them to improve the data.
> >
> > Assuming we are able to establish a relatively smooth and timely process
> with this import, we have many thousands of brand-sourced POIs we would
> like to add to OSM, both in the US and internationally. It's our job to
> represent store locations as accurately and thoroughly as possible, so I
> hope the community will find our contributions valuable.
> >
> > Looking forward to a great relationship,
> > Damian
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 5:07 AM, Mike N <niceman at att.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 12/16/2017 8:01 AM, Ilya Zverev wrote:
> >>
> >>> OSM Conflator works only with nodes, except when it updates tags on
> >>> polygons. If you like mapping building outlines, please do a challenge
> >>> for MapRoulette after this import. Brandify doesn't have building
> outlines.
> >>
> >>
> >>   A post-import MapRoulette challenge would make sense.  A natural
> progression when adding SuperCenter store detail is to add the POIs as
> separate nodes.   It should be no problem when adding them first except
> that the address would logically belong to the building unless the embedded
> stores have their own unit/suite number.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> De-abbreviating street names and distinguishing "Fourth Street of Oaks"
> >>> from "4, Street of Oaks" is a very complex task, and unrelated to the
> >>> importing subject. I thought the street address from the source data
> >>> would be better added to some tag on an object, but without touching
> >>> addr:street and addr:housenumber. And addr:full looks good for this.
> >>> There is no rules for this tag, and city and country are usually
> >>> geocoded, so the value can help when searching.
> >>
> >>
> >>   The nearby OpenStreetMap road name could help since it's already in
> the proper form.   But there are also many US or state Highways that
> haven't been set to a usable address name: for example the street and post
> office address would be "Highway 244" but the nearby US244 only has a ref
> but no name, or it is named "United States Highway 244".
> >>
> >>
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