[Imports] Birmingham City Council tree import
Brian Prangle
brianboruimport at gmail.com
Fri May 12 12:29:23 UTC 2017
Cross-post from Talk GB
(please be aware there have been some comments to this post so your POV
may already have been articulated)
Apart from some posts about the problems with email notifications of
changeset discussions, there has been nothing to indicate where I take this
import. I guess that's because the initative is really down to me.
I've annotated the Import wiki page
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Birmingham_City_Council_trees_data>
with some comments and ideas. I've copied below what I think are the
relevant bits from the wiki page and I look forward to resolving the issues
as I'm keen to complete the import.
Extract from wiki page:
So update approach is to be planned. *This is not a requirement currently
listed in the wiki imports guidelines. However it is good practice and the
issue was raised with Amey and Birmingham City Council as soon as the data
was released. Don't expect quick results!*
*Import user problems*: The import so far has been entirely uploaded by the
brianboru <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/brianboru> user account. The
size of the import was such that it should have been carried out by
specially created OpenStreetMap user account. This guideline is in order to
create another mechanism of separating/disentangling these edits from
normal mapping
*Solution: dedicated import account created: brianboruimport
<https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/brianboruimport>*
*Tag problems* :
Example imported tree
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4721553869
natural <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:natural>=tree
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dtree>source
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source>=bcc_dec_2016form
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:form&action=edit&redlink=1>
=Naturalage
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:age&action=edit&redlink=1>=New
Plantingheight <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:height>=2 to 2.99m
species <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:species>=Liquidambar
styraciflua 'Worplusrn
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:usrn&action=edit&redlink=1>
=2701986plot_number
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:plot_number&action=edit&redlink=1>
=110007site_name
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:site_name&action=edit&redlink=1>=LUDGATE
HILLward
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:ward&action=edit&redlink=1>
=Ladywoodconstituency
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:constituency&action=edit&redlink=1>=City
Centre
- Areas: ward, and constituency tags describe the *area* a tree is in.
That is not a normal thing to do with tags on many nodes. A lot of data
which ordinarily should be determined by a data user (if they require it)
by geo-querying boundaries information. These tags will have a data update
problems when the political boundaries change *The local community
decided some years ago not to add political boundaries, so there is
currenty no other way of querying the tree data by this attribute. This
will need revisiting once the boundary changes are in effect*
- 'site_name' key which contains the street name written in all
capitals. Did this need importing, and if so, did it have to be in
capitals? *Enables the average joe/jane to query data by street name. Is
the use of capitals a problem apart from being ugly? Maybe searches are
case-sensitive? The downoaded dateset used for import has been edited so
that this field is "Properly Cased" so any new imports won't be affected.
Can also bulk edit existing imported data*
- 'usrn' appears to be an identifier (Unique Street Reference Number
<https://data.gov.uk/dataset/national-address-gazetteer>). The purpose
for this should be documented. Perhaps local_ref or ref:usrn should have
been used. *usrn is indeed Unique Street Reference No. Its purpose is
documented in the link and is a national standard for referencing streets.*
- 'height' values are formatted in a non-standard way (See Key:height
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:height>) *Is this a problem?
Not everything is recorded to a standard. If there is insistence on a
standard then it can be fixed e.g by tagging the existing data as
height:range and tagging with height =x where x= the nearest whole number
at the upper end of the range*
- species but no genus *????? See example above which uses normal
binomial name of genus and species (and includes in this case a cultivar)*
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