[Imports] [Talk-us] US Sports Fields Import

Jason Remillard remillard.jason at gmail.com
Wed Feb 7 15:25:09 UTC 2018


Hi Jubal, Microsoft,

Thank you very much. I will restart baseball field import.

Jason

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Jubal Harpster <jubalh at microsoft.com>
wrote:

> Hi Jason,
>
> I mentioned this in your repo but thought I would also mention it to this
> list. The Microsoft legal team reviewed this particular scenario and
> determined that it is consistent with the current terms of the imagery as
> it relates to contributing to OSM.  You're welcome to use the Bing imagery
> as an input to this process.
>
> Regards,
> -Jubal
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jharpster
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Remillard [mailto:remillard.jason at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 7:22 PM
> To: Rory McCann <rory at technomancy.org>
> Cc: Imports OpenStreetMap.org <imports at openstreetmap.org>;
> talk-us at openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap <talk-us at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [Imports] [Talk-us] US Sports Fields Import
>
> Hello,
>
> Before I started this project in November I contacted the Bing licensing
> group, described my intentions, and asked for a developer key. They
> responded by giving me instructions on how to get a developer key.
>
> I imagine they don't get many requests like this and it turns out they
> didn't understand what I was asking them. Today I was contacted by
> Microsoft with the news that they are not sure if the upstream licenses
> they have with the satellite image vendors allows them to grant OSM
> permission to do this kind of project.
>
> The good news is that they indicated that they are going to try to grant
> permission for this use case for OSM. The issue has been escalated into the
> legal team at MS.
>
> I am sure Microsoft will communicate with us when they decide what to do,
> until then we have to wait.
>
> Jason
>
> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Rory McCann <rory at technomancy.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is very interesting! And it's great to see some source code. I'd
> > be tempted to try this myself on things I'm interested in.
> >
> > You mentioned that Microsoft has given permission for this, is that
> > just for your one specific thing, or can any OSMer run this on their
> area?
> > Can you post the documentation with the permission?
> >
> > Since you're importing the resultant file into OSM, this isn't really
> > relevant, but you say "The two final output files are in the public
> > domain.". Surely these output files are basically derived from
> > existing OSM data, and would be under the ODbL?
> >
> > I haven't looked at your data, or tried to run the code myself, but
> > I'd like to do it sometime.
> >
> > Rory
> >
> > On 30/12/17 20:51, Jason Remillard wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have trained a neural network to find baseball, basketball, and
> >> baseball fields in satellite images. It was trained using OSM and
> >> bing tiles. Using the neural network I have mapped 2,800 new fields
> >> in the US northeast, I would like to import the missing fields back
> into OSM.
> >>
> >> Wiki project page :
> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki
> >> .openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2FUS_Sports_Fields_Import_2018&data=02%7C01
> >> %7Cjubalh%40microsoft.com%7C376ab405aa48495df45708d552595531%7C72f988
> >> bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636505465998805392&sdata=Z3e%2F7
> >> g1acUuWldXlhjwvVxQu2h%2FxthzMM1OpSasPBkc%3D&reserved=0
> >> Github:
> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> >> ub.com%2Fjremillard%2Fimages-to-osm&data=02%7C01%7Cjubalh%40microsoft
> >> .com%7C376ab405aa48495df45708d552595531%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd01
> >> 1db47%7C1%7C0%7C636505465998805392&sdata=%2BWtB2k7S97MZwro3Taqaw744ew
> >> 31UUcQXpHqxDr4mwI%3D&reserved=0
> >>
> >> Details
> >>
> >> In November of 2017 all of the mapped baseball, basketball, and
> >> tennis courts in Massachusetts, New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island,
> >> and Pennsylvania were used to train a neural network.
> >>
> >> The import data was created by
> >>
> >> Running the neural network over the training Bing satellite images to
> >> identify the missing sports fields from OSM. Fields found by the
> >> network but not in OSM are passed to the next step.
> >>
> >> A visual QA script shows the newly mapped features over the Bing
> >> satellite images, the user approves or rejects the edits. I rejected
> >> any way that wasn't an excellent match to the satellite images.
> >>
> >> The final OSM files are created from the ways selected by myself in
> >> the visual QA script.
> >>
> >> The ways are tagged with leisure=pitch, plus the sport=* tag.
> >>
> >> The changeset tags will be comment="Imported data, phase 1,
> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki
> >> .openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2FUS_Sports_Fields_Import_2018&data=02%7C01
> >> %7Cjubalh%40microsoft.com%7C376ab405aa48495df45708d552595531%7C72f988
> >> bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636505465998805392&sdata=Z3e%2F7
> >> g1acUuWldXlhjwvVxQu2h%2FxthzMM1OpSasPBkc%3D&reserved=0", and
> >> source="Bing", import=yes
> >>
> >> The jremillard-import account will be used to upload the 2 osm files.
> >> The OSM files are already split to be under the 10,000 item limit on
> >> a changeset. They will be uploaded with josm.
> >>
> >> Prior to starting the project I emailed Microsoft bing licensing
> >> group describing the project and received approval to use the Bing
> >> satellite images for this purpose. Also, the QA script qualifies as a
> >> visual editor in the existing OSM Bing license. The two final output
> >> files are in the public domain.
> >>
> >> Post Import Cleanup - Some imported ways may overlap with existing
> >> OSM data. Specifically, any sport fields added since November, sports
> >> fields that are tagged incorrectly, and sport fields that is a
> >> relation might overlap with the uploaded data. After the files are
> >> uploaded, all of the ways, and relations with the sport= tag will be
> >> checked for overlaps and manually fixed. It is expected that just a
> >> handful of issues will be found in the post cleanup.
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
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