[Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

[Ilya Zverev]

It hurts me a bit that instead of clearly and unambigously saying "I am 
against this and any other cross-country imports, regardless of their 
nature and sources", you are pulling all the obscure Import Guidelines 
points to make me do tons of extra community work, like finding 
communication channels for ~20 countries and convincing every single 
mapper on these, in their local languages.

This is what people are talking when they write about CoC. I imagine you 
think your message is clear, to the point, and "business as usual". But 
if I were new here, I'd slam the door muttering "to hell with OSM, never 
again".

The only constructive suggestion I could dig from your message (again, 
deeply buried in sarcasm) is that I should make a wiki page. I did it 
for all the past POI imports, and will do one for this import. Sorry 
that I forgot this time.

I am certainly looking forward to another article of yours on the 
negative impact of large POI imports. I did many conference talks on the 
positive impact already, and only Frederik has articulated his 
alternative opinion clearly.

Or, if you want to be more positive, could you outline an acceptable 
workflow for such imports, that do not require learning dozen of foreign 
languages and going through a hundred mappers individually.

Ilya

07.03.2018 21:07, Christoph Hormann пишет:
> On Wednesday 07 March 2018, Ilya Zverev wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Following the recent UK Shell stations import, I've got ahold of the
>> entire NavAds dataset. A major part of it are fuel stations all
>> across the world: UK, US, France, Germany, Australia, and many other
>> countries. [...]
> 
> I don't want to comment on the import itself - have done so in the past,
> nothing really to add - except maybe that i looked for documentation of
> the mentioned UK Shell stations import on the wiki or an entry in the
> import catalogue - both of which are required by the import guidelines
> and neither of which seems to exist (and neither for this import
> apparently).
> 
> The import guidelines also clearly state that
> 
> "You must not import the data without local buy-in"
> 
> which leads me to conclude that for a multi-country import you have to
> consult with each of the local communities affected individually.
> 
> The local communities need to have the right to object to the import or
> to have specific local conventions regarding tagging that the import
> needs to follow in their domain.  Local mappers must not be required to
> write here in English to ask questions and raise concens about local
> aspects to be heard.
>