[Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

[Andy Townsend]

On 08/03/2018 17:31, Clifford Snow wrote:
>
> Andy,
> Ilya did provide a geojson [1] of the entire proposed import. If you 
> look back in the thread, IIya replied to my request. While large, it 
> opens in QGIS nicely.
>
> [1] https://transfer.sh/12oTYj/fuel.json

Indeed, but that's not really very helpful to the casual reviewer - we 
can't seriously be expecting every local mapper to install a copy of 
QGIS just to check a proposed import can we? That's very much in "in the 
bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a 
sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard'" territory*.  Also just 
looking at the data like that means there's no way to verify that a 
particular point looks OK or has problems.

Actually, when the data does eventually load*** it's clear that there 
are some serious problems with it.  To take a local example previously 
mentioned when the Shell import was discussed 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/298006841 - there appears to be a 
proposal to change the opening hours there from the "Shell" values to 
Navads' "24/7".  It might have changed of course, but if so it's within 
the last month or so.  Another example is 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/280943195 - the brand in OSM is 
correct, the proposed brand is wrong, as is the proposed website.

Perhaps like the initial attempt with the Shell data Zverik needs to go 
away and then come back once it has been corrected at source? That's 
essentially what happened with the previous Shell UK import** - at the 
second attempt a significant number of obvious errors (discussed on this 
list) had been corrected.  In addition I'd suggest that this import 
should not automatically overwrite data that has an object source or a 
changeset source of something containing "survey", local_knowledge" or 
similar.

It also does not make sense to suggest that an "advertising" company 
update objects in OSM on their whim in the future, especially given the 
poor quality of the data they're trying to import now.  It's not just 
the UK either - their have been quite a few "Zverik, this one looks 
wrong" comments on IRC from other countries too.

Best Regards,

Andy


* 40 years to the day since first broadcast, incidentally: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy_Primary_and_Secondary_Phases#Fit_the_First

** See 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2017-May/thread.html#4956 
and 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2017-May/thread.html#20205 
et al.

*** The website's still broken - I still can't mark data as "valid" or 
"invalid" even when logged in.

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