[Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

James james2432 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 8 21:34:09 UTC 2018


why is everyone complaining about qgis, it opens in JOSM too with the
geojson plugin.

On Mar 8, 2018 2:55 PM, "Andy Townsend" <ajt1047 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 08/03/2018 17:31, Clifford Snow wrote:
>
>
> Andy,
> Ilya did provide a geojson [1] of the entire proposed import. If you look
> back in the thread, IIya replied to my request. While large, it opens in
> QGIS nicely.
>
> [1]  https://transfer.sh/12oTYj/fuel.json
>
>
> Indeed, but that's not really very helpful to the casual reviewer - we
> can't seriously be expecting every local mapper to install a copy of QGIS
> just to check a proposed import can we? That's very much in "in the bottom
> of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the
> door saying 'Beware of the Leopard'" territory*.  Also just looking at the
> data like that means there's no way to verify that a particular point looks
> OK or has problems.
>
> Actually, when the data does eventually load*** it's clear that there are
> some serious problems with it.  To take a local example previously
> mentioned when the Shell import was discussed
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/298006841 - there appears to be a
> proposal to change the opening hours there from the "Shell" values to
> Navads' "24/7".  It might have changed of course, but if so it's within the
> last month or so.  Another example is https://www.openstreetmap.org/
> node/280943195 - the brand in OSM is correct, the proposed brand is
> wrong, as is the proposed website.
>
> Perhaps like the initial attempt with the Shell data Zverik needs to go
> away and then come back once it has been corrected at source?  That's
> essentially what happened with the previous Shell UK import** - at the
> second attempt a significant number of obvious errors (discussed on this
> list) had been corrected.  In addition I'd suggest that this import should
> not automatically overwrite data that has an object source or a changeset
> source of something containing "survey", local_knowledge" or similar.
>
> It also does not make sense to suggest that an "advertising" company
> update objects in OSM on their whim in the future, especially given the
> poor quality of the data they're trying to import now.  It's not just the
> UK either - their have been quite a few "Zverik, this one looks wrong"
> comments on IRC from other countries too.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
>
> * 40 years to the day since first broadcast, incidentally:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_
> Galaxy_Primary_and_Secondary_Phases#Fit_the_First
>
> ** See https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2017-
> May/thread.html#4956 and https://lists.openstreetmap.
> org/pipermail/talk-gb/2017-May/thread.html#20205 et al.
>
> *** The website's still broken - I still can't mark data as "valid" or
> "invalid" even when logged in.
>
>
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