[Imports] United States Poultry Import

[Imre Samu]

:-)   Thank you for your retrospective.

Please help,  *How we can improve the import guideline, *
AND
-  find & fix the "root cause"   (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_cause_analysis )
-  creating a "checklist" for the importers.

My question is:
- Which QGIS tool(s) did you use for the conversion?  ( version, name, ... )
   probably the address module is not perfect, and we need to report to the
maintainers.

   example:   ADDRESS="45-10 19TH AVENUE"   -->   "addr:street" "-10 19th
Avenue"

(later)
If you can summarize your "lesson learned" (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lessons_learned ) please create a wiki page
and link to the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Past_Problems

(lesson learned for me)
Probably we can invent a minimal online-QA-import tool - for checking POI
imports via uploading
- house number, street name, postcode, city name:  validation
- Search for nearby Mapillary/* images
- Check/show different building names vs. candidate poi names inside (
https://gist.github.com/ImreSamu/68b8cdaabcd7098a88cfa2ee96c47b12 )
- Check/show similar names with different tags
- visual checking on the maps.
- visualize the osm files as a table ..
- ...


And Thank you for your work,
 Imre



Hiausirg <grussausbw at gmx.de> ezt írta (időpont: 2022. ápr. 21., Cs, 10:37):

> "Data is from 2009"
> Sorry, didn't realize that.. Then it is probably better to use the data
> only as a reference. However: Before proposing this, I checked quite a lot
> of the POIs (verified on their websites), and almost all were correct. But
> yeah.
>
> Replies to other comments (not that they would really matter now anymore):
> "OpenStreetMap is not an IT project, it is a
> put-your-feet-on-the-ground-and-map-stuff project. Is it really a good idea
> for you to be adding chicken slaughterhouses to
> the map based on blindly trusting a government source?"
> I don't even know what an "IT project" is. And while your project
> definition is true, imports are an important part too. Without them, the US
> map (or the database) would look totally different - and by different, I
> mean empty. Also, i'm not "blindly trusting" sources. I inspected the data
> and had nothing to complain about. Nothing offset, nothing unclear, nothing
> wrong. The only problem with the source could be that a few things are
> outdated - ... or the source is outdated. Oops.
>
> "you might be able to draw more motivation from OSM by mapping things
> yourself, rather than scouring public datasets for stuff that might be
> suitable to import"
> I mostly map things myself. Power lines, pipelines, (rail)roads - and
> industry. For example, i mapped almost all of the >115kV power transmission
> grid and pipelines in Georgia (
> https://openinframap.org/#6.79/32.574/-83.812/L,O,P,T,W). But as
> mentioned, also industrial facilities - including slaughterhouses. So this
> data would also help me with my editing area/intrest.
>
> "OSM currently has 11 objects in the US with "product=meat". After your
> import, there would be 4000, meaning that over 99.6% of all "product=meat"
> objects will have come from your import. There are currently 50
> slaughterhosues in OSM in the US, and after your import there will be 750,
> i.e. over 90% of all slaughterhouses will be from your import."
> Isn't this the best reason FOR the import? The less data we have on that
> subject, the more sense it makes to import it from good sources, or not?
>
> "I would strongly suggest not to use a source=*"
> I think that this might be useful, so that mappers know directly that this
> object was a part of an import, without having to find the changeset tags
> first. And 4k objects are now not that much, compared to the 220 million
> source tags in the DB (and this number is still continously growing).
> However, i don't have a problem to omit it either.
>
> "in the addr:housenumber=* there are a lot of strange values"
> Intresting! I think I know where it comes from: From Puerto Rico (also US
> territory). Their adressing system is somehow different than in the rest of
> the US. But I would not have imported anything there anyway, only in the
> continental US (so no outlaying islands).
>
> "*3322 "TEXT35temp"           <---- Strange , please verify ! *"
> I left that in, because it was a bit unclear if additional tags for these
> Processing features were needed. It would be removed before uploading. (on
> the wiki talk page, but i would have explained this here as well)
>
> Greetings
>
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