[Imports] US - HIDFL (DHS) Hospital Import

[Matthew Whilden]

Hello! (dropped the import group on my initial reply. sorry for the double
mail Marc!)

A few comments from my perspective as a US mapper.

A "trauma center" has a very specific meaning in the United States and it
is specifically about treating serious ailment and injury. (Ex:
https://www.ptsf.org/become-a-trauma-center/what-is-a-trauma-center/) The
lowest level trauma center PA certifies (
https://www.ptsf.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/PTSF-Adult-Level-IV-Standards-1.pdf)
would handle what OSM considers emergency=yes. Here's the certification
application for Washington state and the first question about services
(page 16
https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/530190.pdf?uid=6453161ed88ce)
is whether there's 24/7 emergency care available.

Addresses in the states very commonly have the "full" nine digit postcode
nnnnn-nnnn (https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1uwP) as well as addr:state.

Matt

On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 6:37 PM Marc_marc <marc_marc at mailo.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Le 04.05.23 à 01:17, William Edmisten a écrit :
> > this wiki page <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HIFLD/Public_Health
> >.
>
> thanks for the time you spend on it.
>
> addr:full : may I sugest an improved wording :
> when I start reading this section, it looks like you are
> going to import addr:full in addition to the others.
> at the end you say you erase it.
> suggestion : in addotion to addr:full, using the usaddress library
> parsed into addr:housenumber and addr:street,
> after manually check, addr:housenumber addr:street are imported
> if the parsing worked as expected, if not addr:full is imported
>
> addr:state usually ? decide if you import it or not :)
>
> zip4 appended to addr:postcode with a hyphen :
> do this match does this correspond to local use ?
>
> disused:amenity=hospital : i don't see the added value
> to import disued hospital
>
> beds : On conflict : it is common practice that an import never
> overwrites the values that a contributor has entered in osm.
> maybe it would be better to do this kind of conflict management
> separately from the import, especially since nothing says that
> the hospital site is more up to date than osm: sometimes yes,
> sometimes no
>
> healthcare=psychiatry -> healthcare:speciality=psychiatry ?
> because for an hospital healthcare is set to hospital too
> or keep empty
> healthcare=rehabilitation : same issue
>
> trauma: you ask : "Does being a certified trauma center
> imply emergency=yes?"
> I don't think so. trauma is very vague, post-traumatic stress
> is probably not an emergency=yes (in the sense that it is not
> a sudden event that occurs and will be resolved during the day,
> it is rather a long-term accompaniment duration outside the emergency
> department even if the first crisis can probably lead to the emergency
> department to stabilize the patient and avoid danger to others
> and to himself
>
> Progress by State : it's already ongoing ?
> may I ask to have the review before the import ?
> not importing then receving/readding any review.
>
> missing info : changeset tag, for ex:
> comment=importing missing hospital from HIFLD
> import=yes
> source=HIFLD
> source:url=https://hifld-geoplatform.opendata.arcgis.com/maps/hospitals
> url=https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HIFLD/Public_Health
> <https://hifld-geoplatform.opendata.arcgis.com/maps/hospitalsurl=https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HIFLD/Public_Health>
>
> Regards,
> Marc
>
>
>
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