[Imports] US - HIDFL (DHS) Hospital Import

[William Edmisten]

Regarding addr:full and addr:state: I probably should have phrased that
better. These were useful for my own work using HIFDL as reference (but not
primary source), but would be redundant for an import.

> disused:amenity=hospital : i don't see the added value to import disued
hospital
I believe there is still value in adding disused hospitals, because they
can provide additional information about other features. For example, they
still imply `building=hospital`, and in some cases the building is still
used for other (outpatient) medical purposes, just not as a hospital
providing inpatient care.

> healthcare=psychiatry -> healthcare:speciality=psychiatry ?
> because for an hospital healthcare is set to hospital too
> or keep empty
> healthcare=rehabilitation : same issue
This could also use some clarification from the US community. Currently, my
proposal tags psychiatric hospitals as "amenity=hospital,
healthcare=hospital, healthcare:speciality=psychiatry". However, I feel
like psychiatric hospitals are a distinct category from regular hospitals.
Is there a better tagging scheme for this?

I also think there's some overlap between healthcare=rehabilitation and
social_facility=nursing_home. It would be good to clarify the distinction.

> Progress by State : it's already ongoing ?
> may I ask to have the review before the import ?
> not importing then receving/readding any review.
I should probably move this to another section, since it's not really an
import. This is more of a mechanical edit where I'm manually using
individual hospitals' websites to verify the reference info from HIFDL.

> missing info : changeset tag, for ex:
> comment=importing missing hospital from HIFLD
> import=yes
> source=HIFLD
> source:url=https://hifld-geoplatform.opendata.arcgis.com/maps/hospitals
url=https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HIFLD/Public_Health
<https://hifld-geoplatform.opendata.arcgis.com/maps/hospitalsurl=https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HIFLD/Public_Health>
Are these still required if an informative changeset comment is provided?
I was under the impression the info could be provided either in the
changeset or in these tags.

On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 9:38 PM Marc_marc <marc_marc at mailo.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Le 04.05.23 à 01:17, William Edmisten a écrit :
> > this wiki page <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HIFLD/Public_Health
> >.
>
> thanks for the time you spend on it.
>
> addr:full : may I sugest an improved wording :
> when I start reading this section, it looks like you are
> going to import addr:full in addition to the others.
> at the end you say you erase it.
> suggestion : in addotion to addr:full, using the usaddress library
> parsed into addr:housenumber and addr:street,
> after manually check, addr:housenumber addr:street are imported
> if the parsing worked as expected, if not addr:full is imported
>
> addr:state usually ? decide if you import it or not :)
>
> zip4 appended to addr:postcode with a hyphen :
> do this match does this correspond to local use ?
>
> disused:amenity=hospital : i don't see the added value
> to import disued hospital
>
> beds : On conflict : it is common practice that an import never
> overwrites the values that a contributor has entered in osm.
> maybe it would be better to do this kind of conflict management
> separately from the import, especially since nothing says that
> the hospital site is more up to date than osm: sometimes yes,
> sometimes no
>
> healthcare=psychiatry -> healthcare:speciality=psychiatry ?
> because for an hospital healthcare is set to hospital too
> or keep empty
> healthcare=rehabilitation : same issue
>
> trauma: you ask : "Does being a certified trauma center
> imply emergency=yes?"
> I don't think so. trauma is very vague, post-traumatic stress
> is probably not an emergency=yes (in the sense that it is not
> a sudden event that occurs and will be resolved during the day,
> it is rather a long-term accompaniment duration outside the emergency
> department even if the first crisis can probably lead to the emergency
> department to stabilize the patient and avoid danger to others
> and to himself
>
> Progress by State : it's already ongoing ?
> may I ask to have the review before the import ?
> not importing then receving/readding any review.
>
> missing info : changeset tag, for ex:
> comment=importing missing hospital from HIFLD
> import=yes
> source=HIFLD
> source:url=https://hifld-geoplatform.opendata.arcgis.com/maps/hospitals
> url=https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HIFLD/Public_Health
> <https://hifld-geoplatform.opendata.arcgis.com/maps/hospitalsurl=https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HIFLD/Public_Health>
>
> Regards,
> Marc
>
>
>
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