[Legal-general] Fwd: Fwd: [OSM-legal-talk] New "official" mailing list for public domain and other legal discussions.

[Nic Roets]

Hi

If we run the same software as the rest of OSM, we will build up knowledge
on how to do it. Perhaps report a few bugs. And that knowledge will be
useful if anyone wants to set up a private server. I think Brett Henderson
did this for the Burma relief effort.

The only real concern that the community can have is if community members
waste time on PD, esp. duplicating stuff. For example tracing stuff that
already exists on the main server. But my intention is to mainly to upload
data already collected with gosmore without any editing, which will be
pretty quick.

I like WTFPL and CC-Zero sounds interesting. But being a community project
we really need something very simple. Many people have already seen the
wikipedia-pd license and it does not even sound like a legal statement. If
the things that other licenses address like moral rights are really that
important, other projects will have asked their members to abandon them long
ago.

All I'm interested at this point is the server. Thinks like potlatch, mapnik
and tah can wait. Perhaps one day someone will need PD data and then we at
least have something.

Regards,
Nic

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Sunburned Surveyor <
sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nic,
>
> Before we can answer that question I think we need to ask a couple of
> other questions:
>
> - Do we all agree on the "wikipedia" public domain style release of data?


I think there was agreement on that


>
> - Do we have anyone familiar with the way the main OSM server is
> set-up? Will we use this same exact set-up (file system structure and
> software stack) or will we use a different one?
>
> I still think we need to be really careful about how we proceed. I'd
> still like to see us avoid replicating the OSM software/data stack.
> I'd much rather see us work FIRST on a system that would allow public
> domain enthusiasts to pool their data before integration into the OSM
> database.
>
> I'd really like to ask all our PD enthusiasts to try this type of
> system out before we duplicate the entier OSM software/data stack.
> This approach will be less work and will be viewed with much less
> hostility by the rest of the OSM community. Can't we see how this
> set-up will work before we make the decision to completely replicate
> the OSM software/data stack?
>
> Give me three months to get this type of PD data pool implemented.
> Then, if the majority of the PD enthusiasts find this unsatisfactory,
> we can talk about moving forward with a complete replication.
>
> The Sunburned Surveyor
>
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Nic Roets <nroets at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Right. Any volunteers to set up a PD server ?
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Sunburned Surveyor <sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:32 PM
> > Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] New "official" mailing list for public domain
> and
> > other legal discussions.
> > To: "Licensing and other legal discussions." <
> legal-talk at openstreetmap.org>
> >
> >
> > There has been a mailing list created for discussions related to the
> > release of OSM data into the public domain. It can also be used to
> > discuss other licensing/legal issues not directly related to the new
> > license. Hopefully this will reduce some of the chatter on this list
> > and will allow work on the new license to move forward.
> >
> > You can find the info page for the new mailing list here:
> >
> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-general
> >
> > If there are no objections, I will delete the Yahoo Group that I
> > created for public domain discussions.
> >
> > The Sunburned Surveyor
> >
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