[OSM-legal-talk] License for Press, PR & marketing WAS [OSM-talk] OSM layer into Adobe Illustrator?

[Robert (Jamie) Munro]

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rob at robmyers.org wrote:
> Quoting David Groom <reviews at pacific-rim.net>:
>> At present it seems very unlikely that ITV (one of the two main terrestrial
>> TV channels in the UK) will now use any OSM data.
> 
> I did some work with a friend from Channel 4 new media last year and they
> (C4)seemed to get the idea of how CC licenses work no problem. If ITV 
> don't get
> it, another channel will.

The biggest problem is the Share-Alike part of the license, not CC
licenses in general. If ITN make an article that features a map, do they
have to share the whole news item?

There's 2 possible reasons why they might not have to. Either the
license let's them not do so, or they are able to under fair dealing /
fair use etc., i.e. copyright (i.e. the rights that are granted to
authors to prevent others from copying their work) do not apply.

I think we answered the display all contributors problem - the CC
license says "reasonable".

The other problem, that is related but not the same is that the OSM
foundation doesn't own the copyright, so we can't add new licenses. When
people post "Can we agree to let News Media use our maps" or "Can we
agree that deriving grid refs of places/objects by reference to our data
is allowed" etc., the answer is no, we can't /legally/ agree anything.
We don't have the mechanisms in place to agree anything. We need a
unilateral agreement from all contributors. It would be almost
impossible to organise such agreement.

I am hoping that if we get most people to agree to allowing the
foundation to do what they want with contributions, and remove data that
was last edited by people we can't get to agree(*), none of the people
who didn't agree will claim later that data we didn't delete is derived
from their work. This is something to check with the CC lawyers, by the
way.

If we can't do that, then some of us will have to ignore the existing
database and start again, making a map that is really public domain, so
that npemaps etc. can use it. OSM will be able to import our work, but
we won't be able to import theirs.

Robert (Jamie) Munro

(*) we only need to provide a dataset with the "tainted" data removed
for people who can't agree to the license. People who can agree can
still use the whole DB.
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