[OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM layer intoAdobe Illustrator?

Barnett, Phillip Phillip.Barnett at itn.co.uk
Tue Feb 27 16:31:45 GMT 2007


"If you buy a dataset from OSM, there's a very detailed written explanation on what you may and may not do with the data."

Did you mean 'If you buy a dataset from OS' ie, the Ordnance Survey here? I assume you did, on a third re-read....

Regards
Phillip


 
 



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-----Original Message-----

From: legal-talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org [mailto:legal-talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Frederik Ramm
Sent: 27 February 2007 15:54
To: rob at robmyers.org
Cc: legal-talk at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM layer intoAdobe Illustrator?

Hi,

>> The main problem is not that they can't use the map, it's that they 
>> don't know that they certainly can use the map. The license doesn't 
>> make it clear enough - they will always fear they have some future 
>> need for the map, that they can't do.
>
> This is the same with any licensing scheme, including proprietary 
> licensing. OSM is not a higher risk.

If you buy a dataset from OSM, there's a very detailed written explanation on what you may and may not do with the data. And if you are in doubt wheter it is ok to use the data for a specific project, you can ask them and get a definitve, and legally binding, answer.

If I am not mistaken it was you who laughed at people who hoped to get such kinds of answers from the providers of OSM data. "Hire a lawyer yourself", you said.

 From this alone, it should be obvious that, at least currently, using OSM data does pose a higher risk of legal troubles that using commercially licensed data.

>> I can't persuade them, because it's easier for them to find another 
>> designer than it is for them to listen. Big corporates are like that.
>> It's hard enough to persuade them to use Linux as a web server.  
>> "But we
>> don't have any in house developers!" I can't do SA. I would have to 
>> use another data source.
>
> This would not harm you, as the cost will be included in your budget. 
> And it will not harm OSM, as the project would gain no new data 
> anyway.

The idea that "gaining new data" is the paramount goal of OSM and anything that doesn't have an influence on "OSM gaining new data"  
does not harm OSM is short-sighted.

We are very much interested in world domination, er, a very widespread use of our data (which, in turn, will make us better known and perhaps lead to more contributions!). Anything that hinders such widespread use could be interpreted - and is by Y.T. - as harming OSM.

Bye
Frederik

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