[OSM-legal-talk] Mass import of TeleAtlas data

Mikel Maron mikel_maron at yahoo.com
Thu Aug 21 15:09:04 BST 2008


I don't think that's overly beauracratic at all. It's inline with the "procedure" developed for disputes.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Disputes

In fact, it would be useful to start up a page on the wiki specifically for data imports that violate copyright.


Unfortunately, for either problem, I don't think we really have enough thought and decision on actions to take. It's probably something the Foundation Board should investigate.

-Mikel



----- Original Message ----
From: Brian Quinion <openstreetmap at brian.quinion.co.uk>
To: Licensing and other legal discussions. <legal-talk at openstreetmap.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 6:49:11 AM
Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Mass import of TeleAtlas data

As an aside,

I was unable to find any information / suggestions / procedure
documented on the wiki as what to do if you suspect someone is copying
data from a copyright source which means it is left pretty much up to
each person to decide what to do.

So far the procedure seems to be:

1) Contact the user via their talk page with the evidence.  Be polite
- you might be wrong or they might have permission.

2) If there is no response (after 5 days) or you are deeply
unconvinced by the response post your evidence to the legal-talk
mailing list (or your country specific mailing list if you think this
would be more appropriate).

3) The OSM community as a whole will take it from there.

I realise that this sounds rather bureaucratic but I think some
guidelines would be helpful.  If the above is pretty much correct I'll
add it to the FAQ on the wiki.

--
Brian


On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>>> The right place would obviously be user Pranas' inbox. Have you at least
>>> made an attempt talking to him before demanding, in public, that all his
>>> contributions should be deleted?
>>
>> I have to admit that the very detailed examples that Albertas brought up in his mail, do look convincing
>
> Sure they do. But even *if* that user was importing proprietary data
> wholesale it could be a misunderstanding, and one could at least make an
> attempt to clarify this with him and only go public if that doesn't get
> one anywhere.
>
> (For all you know, that guy could even have a written ok from TeleAtlas
> for what he's doing, or more likely from those people from whom
> TeleAtlas get their data, or whatever.)
>
> I'm just saying that we should not publicly talk about what someone does
> without at least making an attempt to contact him - FIRST. If he says
> "go away it's none of your business" then you can still go public.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
>
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