[OSM-legal-talk] License Change Status?

Frédéric Bonifas fredericbonifas at gmail.com
Tue Jul 1 15:34:41 BST 2008


A little naive question : if we go ODBL, what will be the license of
the images produced with osm data (maps etc)?

Frederic

2008/7/1, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) <ajrlists at googlemail.com>:
> Frederik,
>
> Things have not stood still although we are currently reliant on the good
> will of others to help the process along. The proposed Open Database
> Licence, now called the ODbL licence for short, was updated/improved by
> Jordan a few weeks ago. The OSMF board have reviewed it and are very happy
> but we wanted to get another legal view before we put it out for further OSM
> discussion. Steve had been offered some time with a highly qualified lawyer
> and currently we are waiting for the two to meet up. The process has been a
> little delayed due to the unfortunate late cancellation of meetings.
>
> As soon as Steve reports back we will be in a position to decide whether
> it's ready to take further or if it needs further work. Until this has been
> done there are no plans to discuss the later steps in the required process.
>
> Cheers
>
> Andy
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: legal-talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org [mailto:legal-talk-
>>bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Frederik Ramm
>>Sent: 01 July 2008 2:44 PM
>>To: Licensing and other legal discussions.
>>Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] License Change Status?
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>   what's the status of the license change plans? Have they run
>>aground - I had been told a few months ago that a new release of
>>Jordan's draft would be imminent. What's more, the license itself -
>>about which we'll hear at SOTM - is only one little piece of the
>>puzzle. The whole transition process - which, correct me if I'm
>>wrong, is not scheduled to be discussed at SOTM at all - is surely as
>>difficult. Will we attempt to employ legal tricks to re-license work
>>of people who don't respond to our license change spam email? What
>>exactly will we delete if people say "no" to the license change? (It
>>has been said that even the pub on the street corner may be a work
>>derived from the road data... and vice versa.) How many people have
>>to say "no" for us to stop the change altogether? What would we do
>>then, stick with CC-BY-SA and hope nobody notices? After a license
>>change, would we keep a "parallel universe" a.k.a. "fork" of OSM
>>holding the old, not-relicensed data until the wounds in the new data
>>set have healed?
>>
>>Is it possible that this whole transition process and the associated
>>questions are such a delicate matter that everybody prefers not to
>>think about it, much less talk about it? That would be very well
>>understandable but at the same time dangerous. It seems clear to me
>>that the current license works only as long as people don't look
>>closely.
>>
>>Need I say that, had we decided to simply go PD when last year's SOTM
>>panel found that there was broad support for it, we would now be one
>>happy project with all the legal hassles out of the way? It's not to
>>late to see the light!
>>
>>Bye
>>Frederik
>>
>>--
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