[OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] License missing on many web pages

[Peter Miller]

I think it is important that we get a consensus view on how attribution
should work in the new licence (or as near as we can manage).

The good thing about the new licence is that we can agree what we want and
then get it written.

Personally I believe that it is entirely appropriate and practical for all
60,000 contributors (or 600,000!) to be listed on the OpenStreetMap website;
that seems entirely 'appropriate for the medium or means' and I suggest we
do it.

However... it doesn't seem appropriate to list all the contributors on a map
showing how to get to the village hall in their news-letter, in that case I
think crediting OSM with a URL is appropriate and 'reasonable to the
medium'. If people want to see who worked on the map then they can click
through to the OSM website and find a full list of contributors there, or
possibly we could even sort out a query to list contributors within any
particular bounding-box.

For the new licence the attribution also needs to also cover situations
where the OSM DB is distributed, and where it is combined with other DBs and
that is distributed. The proposed new licence makes a distinction between
the attribution given to the DB itself (and derivations of that), which are
distributed with the data; and with end use of the data, for example the
village news-letter.

I have made a proposal of how all this might work within the context of the
new licence in my post 'An updated 'brief brief' for the new licence'.
(http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2008-September/001208.h
tml)

Please respond to that post if you disagree! When I have a few more comments
to that draft I will update the draft.

In the mean time, the advise to credit maps and distributed data with the
phrase 'map data CCbySA www.openstreetmap.org' seems sensible advise!



Regards,



Peter



> -----Original Message-----
> From: legal-talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org [mailto:legal-talk-
> bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Gentle
> Sent: 01 October 2008 07:23
> To: Frederik Ramm; Licensing and other legal discussions.
> Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] License missing on many web pages
> 
> Ah yes; but the original authors are the contributors not the OSM
> foundation. Is it reasonable to only credit the authors through OSM?
> We won't really know unless it goes to court.
> 
> In any case can we add this 'standard' license interpretation to the
> wiki? Perhaps here:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Common_licence_interpretations
> 
> Cheers;
> Joseph
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Joseph Gentle wrote:
> >>
> >> None of them (not even the OSM webpage!) attribute the OSM
> >> contributors properly. The CC-By-SA license requires all contributors
> >> are listed. Yes; all ~60 000 of us.
> >
> > Not true; the license requires that you:
> >
> > "give the Original Author credit reasonable to the medium or means You
> are
> > utilizing".
> >
> > Any further discussions are on-topic over at legal-talk ---->
> >
> > Bye
> > Frederik
> >
> > --
> > Frederik Ramm  ##  eMail frederik at remote.org  ##  N49°00'09" E008°23'33"
> >
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