[OSM-legal-talk] License Telephone Debate
Nick Black
nickblack1 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 12 12:30:46 GMT 2009
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Simon Ward <simon at bleah.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:21:49AM +0000, Nick Black wrote:
> > The purpose of the call on Saturday is to offer an additional channel of
> > communication around the license - its intended to supplement the mailing
> > lists and wiki
>
> Thanks, that’s what I expected to hear.
>
> > What I'd hope would come out of it is a clearer understanding of the
> process
> > of the license change and some of the specifics around changing it.
> Please
> > see this as the Foundation doing everything we can to open up and engage
> > with the community.
>
> The Foundation could do more to engage with the community by
> participating more in list discussion.
This is definitely a goal that the individual Foundation members can set to
achieve. IMO, this is a case of finding the balance between looking inwards
to the community for guidance and looking outwards to the business of the
foundation (licences, local chapters, conferences, servers etc). The
outbound activities of Foundation board + team members take a lot of time -
we need to strike the right balance between engaging with the community and
following up the things that matter to the community.
>
> Hey, if the community directly gets answers, it might argue the price of
> fish a little less.
>
> > As for the language and timing, its a bit of a damned if you do, damned
> if
> > you don't. Its always 2am somewhere and the fact is that the majority of
> > people involved with OSM are in the EU. As Andy said, if there's enough
> > demand we can host calls for other time zones.
>
> Well, that’s just it: You’re seeking ways to engage with the community,
> yet placing the burden on them to represent themselves, asking them to
> rearrange their schedules to participate in a call at a specific time.
> That’s not helping members of the community trust the process any more
> than before.
The call is one channel that people can use. I really don't think its too
much burden to ask people if they would like to participate in a call.
>
>
> > As always, please let us know any constructive ideas. So far there have
> > been no constructive suggestions from people who are criticizing the
> call,
> > for a better way to run this on this thread.
>
> Active participation in the list. Take part in the discussion threads,
> give your opinions where you have them, answer questions if you have the
> answers, etc.
>
> Simon
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