[OSM-legal-talk] Proper attribution
Sam Larsen
samlarsen1 at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Oct 22 13:34:18 BST 2009
Nick,
Personally i think your attribution is fine. I was even pointing
people to your map attribution methods to use as an case study until i
found them in the list here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution
That's where all the confusion has come in, and personally i don't
think this impractical attribution problem will be solved until ODbL is
introduced (hopefully). I guess until that time people will have different views
on what is 'proper' and what is not.
Sam
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>From: Nick Black <nickblack1 at gmail.com>
>To: Licensing and other legal discussions. <legal-talk at openstreetmap.org>
>Sent: Thursday, 22 October, 2009 13:24:20
>Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proper attribution
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>Hi Sam and list,
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>Could you point out where CloudMade is not attributing OSM properly and we'll fix it right away. Our maps API puts:
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>"© 2009 CloudMade - Map data CCBYSA 2009 OpenStreetMap.org contributors"
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>Our FAQ says:
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>"If you use our maps via the Web Maps Lite API a copyright and attribution notice will appear in the bottom right hand corner of the window which says "© 2009 CloudMade - Map data CCBYSA 2009 OpenStreetMap.org contributors - Terms of Use". You must show this attribution whenever you access our map tiles."
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>For mobile use:
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>"You should include the following information somewhere in the application where it can be easily accessed, such as a "Help" or "About" screen or on a splash screen: "© 2009 CloudMade - Map data CCBYSA 2009 OpenStreetMap.org contributors - Terms of Use"."
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>http://cloudmade.com/faq#license
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>Our contacts page does not include attribution on the map, but has it under the maps, as we judged them too small to be attributed:
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>http://cloudmade.com/contact
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>The OSM wiki says that CloudMade are violating because our client sites and our own site says::
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>"Whitehouse site says "Data (c) OpenStreetMap, rendering (c) CloudMade". CloudMade site says both "Map data (c) OpenStreetMap contributors" and separately "Map data CCBYSA OpenStreetMap contributors"."
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution
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>But the OSM wiki also says that the correct attribution is:
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>"If you are using OpenStreetMap data only, we request that your credit reads at least "Map data (c) OpenStreetMap (and) contributors, CC-BY-SA"."
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ#I_would_like_to_use_OpenStreetMap_maps._How_should_I_credit_you.3F
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>Depending how precise you want to be, we say "Data" rather than "Map Data".
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>I think the Foundation need to publish some clear guidelines about this. From the point of view of a company who is trying very hard to get it right and to make it easy for people building on our platform to get it right, I can vouch that attribution issues are confusing.
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>We want to do the right thing and we're even happy to help define what the right thing is, but there needs to be more clarity.
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>Nick
>nick at cloudmade.com
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>On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Sam Larsen <samlarsen1 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>Hi all,
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>>>>I am looking into the proper attribution of OSM in a tiled web mapping scenario. I know the guidelines on attribution can be found on the wiki - and i have read them.
>>>>There is also the list of non-conforming sites: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution
>>>>Does anyone think, we should have a list of 'conforming' sites - as the CloudMade maps and even the main www.openstreetmap.org are listed as not having proper attribution.
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>>I think it would be useful to have at least one example of conforming attribution (even though i know the attribution will change in the near future anyway) for people to use as a case study / reference. Of course if people were to be referencing this website, it would have to be absolutely correct and stay unchanged while it is used as a reference.
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>>>>Maybe a site could be mocked-up within the wiki somewhere?
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>>>>I haven't contributed to the wiki before - maybe this could be my calling - if anyone thinks it is needed.
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>>>>Sam Larsen
>>>>Web GIS Specialist
>>>>York St, Cambridge, UK, CB1 2PY
>>>>M: +44 (0)794 433 7455
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