[OSM-legal-talk] Proper attribution

[Nick Black]

Hi Sam and list,
Could you point out where CloudMade is not attributing OSM properly and
we'll fix it right away.  Our maps API puts:

"© 2009 CloudMade <http://cloudmade.com/> - Map data
CCBYSA<http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/>
 2009 OpenStreetMap.org <http://openstreetmap.org/> contributors"

Our FAQ says:

"If you use our maps via the Web Maps Lite API a copyright and attribution
notice will appear in the bottom right hand corner of the window which says
"© 2009 CloudMade - Map data CCBYSA 2009 OpenStreetMap.org contributors -
Terms of Use". You must show this attribution whenever you access our map
tiles."

For mobile use:

"You should include the following information somewhere in the application
where it can be easily accessed, such as a "Help" or "About" screen or on a
splash screen: "© 2009 CloudMade - Map data CCBYSA 2009 OpenStreetMap.org
contributors - Terms of Use"."

http://cloudmade.com/faq#license

Our contacts page does not include attribution on the map, but has it under
the maps, as we judged them too small to be attributed:

http://cloudmade.com/contact

The OSM wiki says that CloudMade are violating because our client sites and
our own site says::

"Whitehouse site says "Data (c) OpenStreetMap, rendering (c) CloudMade".
CloudMade site says both "Map data (c) OpenStreetMap contributors" and
separately "Map data CCBYSA OpenStreetMap contributors"."
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution

But the OSM wiki also says that the correct attribution is:

"If you are using *OpenStreetMap data only*, we request that your credit
reads at least "Map data (c) OpenStreetMap *(and)* contributors, CC-BY-SA"."
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ#I_would_like_to_use_OpenStreetMap_maps._How_should_I_credit_you.3F

Depending how precise you want to be, we say "Data" rather than "Map Data".

I think the Foundation need to publish some clear guidelines about this.
 From the point of view of a company who is trying very hard to get it right
and to make it easy for people building on our platform to get it right, I
can vouch that attribution issues are confusing.

We want to do the right thing and we're even happy to help define what the
right thing is, but there needs to be more clarity.

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Nick
nick at cloudmade.com











On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Sam Larsen <samlarsen1 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am looking into the proper attribution of OSM in a tiled web mapping
> scenario.  I know the guidelines on attribution can be found on the wiki -
> and i have read them.
> There is also the list of non-conforming sites:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution
> Does anyone think, we should have a list of 'conforming' sites - as the
> CloudMade maps and even the main www.openstreetmap.org are listed as not
> having proper attribution.
> I think it would be useful to have at least one example of conforming
> attribution (even though i know the attribution will change in the near
> future anyway) for people to use as a case study / reference.  Of course if
> people were to be referencing this website, it would have to be absolutely
> correct and stay unchanged while it is used as a reference.
>
> Maybe a site could be mocked-up within the wiki somewhere?
>
> I haven't contributed to the wiki before - maybe this could be my calling -
> if anyone thinks it is needed.
>
>
>
> Sam Larsen
> Web GIS Specialist
> York St, Cambridge, UK, CB1 2PY
> M: +44 (0)794 433 7455
>
>
>
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