[OSM-legal-talk] Relicensing, PD, leverage and petitions
TimSC
mapping at sheerman-chase.org.uk
Sun Jul 18 14:00:30 BST 2010
Hi all,
It seems to me mapping contributors can primarily influence in outcome
of the relicensing in two ways: their choice relicensing their own
contributions in the project and their involvement after the switch. I
was considering how those two factors can be used to encourage others to
release as much data as possible as public domain. I won't bother
covering the reasons in favor of PD here, but a significant number of
mappers are against it, of course. Firstly, the pro-PD people could
propose a "strings attached" deal to OSMF as a condition for relicensing
their data. After relicensing, the pro-PD people have their leverage
watered down by the contributor terms. Secondly, our involvement in OSM
after the switch can have "strings attached". If a significant minority
unified on this, it would be very hard for OSMF to ignore. Of course,
this only works if both sides in a deal have an amicable arrangement. I
am not suggesting backmail! After all, the whole point of PD is that
people can do what they want with the data.
For the conditions for relicensing our individual contribution's, I
propose the following. Each "data object" (either a node, way or
relation) have one or more authors. For each data object, we will agree
to relicense our data as ODbL, if all other authors agree to release
their data as PD. Note that each data object is treated independently:
if two authors both agree, all their shared data is relicensed as PD
(and ODbL). If an anti-PD author refuses, none of the data shared in
common with a pro-PD-person will be relicensed. This will encourage
anti-PD people to release their data, particularly when it is in an area
overlapping many other pro-PD users. The pro-PD people have a strong
negotiating position if they have a few key mappers operating in a wide
area. But pro-ODBL people also get what they want: the data will be
relicensed as ODbL. Even if OSMF does not provided infrastructure to
support a future PD fork, the data will still be there for use in local
scale PD mapping projects.
The biggest problem I can see is there is data that is derived from PD
incompatible licenses. I guess what we really need to ask is people
release their original work into PD and ensure they use correct source
tags for incompatible data. This would provide a basis for a PD dataset,
once the incompatible data is removed. Of course, that is a non-trivial
task. It is likely that the ODbL relicensing will be faced with a
similar filtering task as well, unless they get 100% agreement on
relicensing imports.
As for our continual involvement in the project, we can make it
conditional on having a fork under some other license - I guess PD, or
CC-BY-SA or similar. Given enough people, this would be a bargaining
clip to get any concessions from OSMF. Of course, this has a greater
risk of fracturing the community, so unreasonable demands should not be
made. We are of course all participating in OSM by free choice, so many
people might quit if we relicense. I am merely suggesting potential
quitters get organised and, as a cohesive group, make their feelings
known to OSMF. Of course, if OSMF claims to listen to contributor's
concerns, everything will be fine (I hope). Also, the pro-ODbL people
would be happy with a coexisting fork, as mappers would continue to
contribute into the overall OSM project, and they can import PD data
into ODbL OSM, if the benefit outweighs the effort.
I guess the next step is to create petitions for the various possible
concessions. Or possibly a doodle poll with the options "my relicensing
is conditional on this proposal", "my future participation is
conditional on this proposal", "both", "I support this proposal but I
will continue regardless". This certainly gives us more information than
the proposed relicensing "yes"/"no" question proposed by the LWG. Being
a petition, it does not require a "no" option. There is a potential
problem of spoof signatories - possibly people could confirm their
position on their OSM profile. Petitions should not be used to change
the overall direction of OSM - that would require an inclusive poll of
contributors. But first, I wondered if anyone had thoughts on this?
TimSC
PS The background to my views is partly summarized here:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2010-July/003523.html
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