[OSM-legal-talk] [DRAFT] Contributor Terms 1.2

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On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Simon Ward <simon at bleah.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 09:15:16PM +1100, Andrew Harvey wrote:
> > If OSMF is not stoping existing contributors to continue to upload
> > their CC BY-SA work without agreeing the the CTs, perhaps new users
> > should not be required to agree to the CTs to sign up. Otherwise some
> > new users will be shuned away while those existing users are allowed
> > to contribute to the project. I think everyone should be treated
> > fairly, regardless of whether some people signed up earlier than
> > others.
>
> Occasionally I see somebody write something sensible, and this is one of
> those occasions.  Yes, all users (contributors?) should be treated the
> same, regardless of when they joined.
>

+1



> The OSMF, after member “vote”, is committed to putting up the new
> licence for community adoption.  In doing this, it has confused itself
> with supporting the process and supporting the licence itself.  It goes
> even further, not necessarily directly by OSMF members, but most likely
> influenced by it, to state such things as “we are changing the license”.
> I generally consider “adoption” as something done by choice, but this
> has apparently already been decided for the community.
>
> Requiring new users to sign up to the new CTs just adds bias to the
> adoption of the new licence.  I see the ODbL (+DbCL) as an enhancement
> to the current situation (although I despise the CTs), but manipulating
> it so that it gets any advantage like this is just wrong.
>
> I’d like to see all mandatory “agreements” to the CTs so far to be
> disregarded, and mandatory agreement to the CTs be removed for new
> sign‐ups.  All users may fairly be informed about the licensing options,
> and where they can indicate their preference.  At this point we
> determine what the level of support for the licence+CT change is, and if
> and only if we have overall support for the licence+CT change we change
> the sign up terms to reflect it.
>
> Simon
> --
> A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a
> simple system that works.—John Gall
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