[OSM-legal-talk] Database and its contents

ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.gremmen at cetest.nl
Thu Nov 25 13:33:14 GMT 2010


Well Rob,

That is turning reality upside down. The only reason
for any license is to restrict any user of data/map/dbase or 
whatever the license is for.

Make us a list of license articles that do NOT limit
the potential user, but stimulate him to invent new
applications without any restrictions. 
(putting restrictions = limiting freedom IMHO )

>And I'm not sure OSM(F) is either unwilling or unable to challenge 
>licence breaches in court.

Who's gonna pay : Microsoft ?

Regards,

Gert Gremmen






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[mailto:legal-talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org] Namens Rob Myers
Verzonden: Thursday, November 25, 2010 10:36 AM
Aan: legal-talk at openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Database and its contents

On 11/25/2010 07:50 AM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
wrote:
>
> 3) I don't care if anybody copies our data for any reason,

Do you care if they prevent other people from doing the same?

> because any other company will do the same,

Well, yes, that's what the licences allow them to do. They just ensure 
that they cannot prevent anyone else from doing so.

> and possibly we will ourselves.

Not under the current CTs. ;-)

> 4) I am a pragmatist (and to some extend anarchist ;<)) in that we are
> not able and not willing to challenge any data theft in court.

That isn't pragmatism, that's capitulation.

And I'm not sure OSM(F) is either unwilling or unable to challenge 
licence breaches in court.

> 5) Any license choosen conflicts with the OPEN & FREE concept, the
basis
> of OSM , and the most important reason why it became successful.

A licence that protects the reality of that freedom supports it rather 
than conflicting with it, and is the reason why OSM became successful 
(or at the absolute least has not prevented it from succeeding).

- Rob.

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