[OSM-legal-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference (from osm-talk)

[Grant Slater]

John,

On 25 November 2010 20:15, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Just a comment from one of the 130 who has voted yes on the recommendation
> of one of the people I thought was fairly sensible here and I now regret
> taking his advice.  I now strongly suspect I should have spent six months
> wading through through the legal talk side of things rather than mapping
> because a whole slew of issues seem to be coming up here.
>

~4800 existing users have agreed to the Contributor Terms, this
excludes the new OSM signups.
Or are you discussing the foundation members vote?

> I would like the ability to go back and change my vote.
>
> I don't like being told this is not the place for discussion of license
> issues or concerns.  In light of the recent involvement of Microsoft and
> other large players I think there are perception problems that need to be
> addressed.
>

Microsoft/Bing has spoken to the Licensing Working Group on 2
occasions. I flagged these up in the minutes. MapQuest has not spoken
to the Licensing Grouping Group.

> For example I'm very concerned that there is no plan to deal with the
> transition to the new licensing model.
>

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Implementation_Plan
If you would like expansion on the items ask.

> Perhaps OSM should take note of the Open Data mob and be a little more open
> about what is happening rather than trying to censure discussion on issues
> and concerns which apparently have not been addressed by the decision
> makers.  They seem to have taken decisions but won't accept any
> responsibility to address issues and concerns.  I'm not asking to stay with
> the old licenses necessarily but I would like to see some sort of plan and
> if we can find a way to address the issues and concerns.
>

Censure discussion? Please expand. Moving licensing discussion to a
dedicated public list is not censure in my view.

There have been many round of question, answers and many revisions.
The LWG spends at around 25% of their time just keeping minutes. I'm a
member of the LWG, we are all volenteers with the exception of
occasional member Steve Coast.
Full minutes: http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes

Regards
 Grant