[OSM-legal-talk] Rights granted to OSMF (Section 2 of the CT)

ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.gremmen at cetest.nl
Sun Apr 17 10:59:23 BST 2011

>Granting rights to a central body (but not
>your copyright--you still retain that) is not unheard of in open

Some contributors do not want to do *anything* that is related
to the legal system in this world.  Many people just don't want to
be involved in that.  We click everyday on each piece of software,
upgrade or whatever website, to such an extent that we cannot read
those CT's anymore, let alone obey in any sense.
If I need something for business, or for surviving; I may click.

If it's someone that wants something for me, I won't click.
What bloody arrogance has an organization that gets stuff for free (OSM)
to make me oblige to sign *any* contract.

That is why I won't "click" in favor, nor against the CT. 


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Eugene Alvin Villar [mailto:seav80 at gmail.com] 
Verzonden: zondag 17 april 2011 7:18
Aan: John Smith
CC: Licensing and other legal discussions.
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Rights granted to OSMF (Section 2 of the

On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 1:00 PM, John Smith <deltafoxtrot256 at gmail.com>
> On 17 April 2011 14:39, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Clearly this is not that big a problem for Apache contributors, why
>> should it be a big problem for OSM contributors (setting aside the
>> desire to import other data for which the contributor has no right to
>> sublicense)?
> Apache has been a mature project for quite some time, what you should
> be asking instead is why did others go for GPL for their httpd.
> In any case this sort of clause is most common with projects like
> google map maker, In fact until recently this was a reason used to
> promote OSM, the fact that it didn't use the same terms as google map
> maker.

The point still stands. Granting rights to a central body (but not
your copyright--you still retain that) is not unheard of in open

I personally have not used the reason you state to promote OSM over
GMM. I have always emphasized in my outreach that you can use OSM data
in more ways than GMM's data (such as using OSM data to create Garmin
maps--Garmin is the most popular PND brand in my country).

I understand though that some may have used the "no central body" as a
promotional banner, but that is a really poor method since the FSF and
ASF has had copyright assignment and rights grants respectively for a
long time now.

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