[OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes

Steve Coast steve at asklater.com
Thu Jul 7 14:52:04 BST 2011


Awesome. Can you go run that project and leave us in peace then please?

Steve

On 7/7/2011 12:35 AM, 80n wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org 
> <mailto:frederik at remote.org>> wrote:
>
>     Simon,
>     Andreas,
>     all,
>
>       when discussing these things with the person who goes by the
>     pseudonym of "John Smith", keep in mind that he is spending a lot
>     of time building/supporting an OpenStreetMap "fork".
>
>     The forkers, as I like to call them, are driven by all kinds of
>     motivations, the most benign probably being a sincere worry about
>     data loss - they believe that the license change is going to hurt
>     OSM so much that they must do all they can do retain a live copy
>     of the "old OSM", or even dissuade OSMF from changing altogether.
>
>
> Frederik,
> I'm sure you've been paying attention an know full well that the 
> reason fosm.org <http://fosm.org> exists is because we have grave 
> concerns about the new license.  The only thing we are forking is the 
> license, we are not forking the tagging scheme or the community or 
> even the objectives of OSM.
>
> Data loss is your problem not ours.  I see people doing thought 
> experiments about how they can get around the wishes of contributors 
> who have, in good faith, provided their content under the CC license.  
> Those people who have not agreed to the CT have not consented for 
> their content to be used in any other way.  You should respect that.
>
> A main objective of OSM was to create maps that were free enough to be 
> used by everyone.  Anything that steps across the line will taint OSM 
> with the impurity that we strived for so long to avoid.
>
> There will forever be doubt about the provenance of OSM data.
>
> 80n
>
>
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