[OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible

[Mike Dupont]

Hi there,
I also have these concerns, and am really interested in the resolution.
mike

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Pavel Pisa <ppisa4lists at pikron.com> wrote:

> Dear OSMF responsible,
>
> even recent discussions about ODBl compatibility with Wikipedia
> problems  shows that there can be problems or complications
> with ODBL only licensed data.
>
> I.e imagine quite realistic scenario. I like to map
> marked hiking paths in our area. The guideposts texts
> are critical information. They are usually acquired
> as photos and they are hold in Wikipedia commons.
> We have guideposts in map as well, it would worth
> to run script to extract already know guideposts locations,
> match them with commons and run update and preparation of
> commons pages. But this in ODBl language derivative
> of database. But pages and text (i.e. locations)
> in commons are CC-BY-SA. Same if amenity water
> is imported etc. We would be in the fact forbidden
> to use our own data.
>
> More people would feel much more safe if they know that
> they can access their future contributions under CC-BY-SA
> as well. Now all data are CC-BY-SA compatible.
>
> Other uncertainty source is OSMF silence to questions
> and worry about license and mainly contributions
> terms abuse.
>
> When I have expressed my concerns to OSMF agent
> convicing me to agree to new CT (2011-02-15),
> he agreed that my remarks are valid and would be
> discussed at OSMF. Then no reply come.
> Same for my concerns in email to legal-talk list
> at 2012-04-02 when I stepped in discussion with
> Pavel Machek.
>
> Please, take extralicenses as the first class citizen.
>
> http://timsc.dev.openstreetmap.org/extralicenses/
>
> Keep that information in primary OSM database and allow
> JOSM to indicate CC-BY-SA compatible changes in history
> same as CT is shown now. I believe that many people would
> be happy with that and they would provide contributions
> through OSM instead of abandon OSM and contributing
> to FOSM.
>
> By the way, I am leaving for hiking without Internet
> access for more than two weeks now. I expect to have
> even some tracks and data to contribute into some
> open community map.
> But according to actual CT wording I am almost losing
> the right to be heard in terms or license changes vote
> because limit to respond is three weeks. And I and even
> more some other people are going for month or even more
> to the distant areas.
>
> Same problem with not limiting frequency
> and period for discussion about CT and license
> changes.
>
> By the way, how is is possible that on page
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/new
>
> is not directly seen which agreement would be
> demanded from me. I looked at registration
> to find actual CT wording. ODBl pointer is
> hidden in "privacy policy" and no word about CT
> at the first glimpse. But there should be
> direct pointer from "new" page to the CT which
> are demanded from users for about one year
> already. So one registers and only then he
> is confronted with fact that he has to agree
> to someting he/she would not know in advance.
>
> Best wishes,
>
>                Pavel Pisa
>
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