[OSM-legal-talk] Licenses for Produced Works under ODbL

[Michael Collinson]

Hi Igor,

I wonder if this resource helps with your question?

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Trivial_Transformations_-_Guideline 
(a work in progress)

Mike


On 22/10/2012 18:45, Igor Brejc wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for your clarifications, everybody. I was under the (looks like 
> wrong) impression the produced work must also be available under the 
> ODbL license.
> One issue still bugs me though:
>
>     If the closed software you have used did not work on the data
>     directly, but on some sort of pre-processed or augmented data,
>     then *that* would be the data you have to hand over.
>
>
> What does "pre-processed or augmented" data really mean? OSM data has 
> to be preprocessed to get to the form suitable for rendering. Some 
> examples of preprocessing:
>
>    1. Importing it into PostGIS and flattening the geometries (like
>       Mapnik does it).
>    2. Generalizations: simplifications of roads, polygons etc. for a
>       certain map scale.
>    3. Finding suitable label placements.
>    4. Extracting topology from the data (like multipolygon processing,
>       merging of polygons, road segments etc.).
>    5. Running other complex algorithms on the OSM data.
>
> This preprocessing can be done "on-the" fly or (in case of Mapnik) as 
> a separate prerequisite step.
>
> Igor
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org 
> <mailto:frederik at remote.org>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     On 10/22/12 12:07, Igor Brejc wrote:
>
>          2. I generate a PDF map from that extract using an unpublished,
>
>             closed-source software. The map includes the appropriate OSM
>             attribution text.
>
>
>          1. Is this possible?
>
>
>     Yes (assuming that the PDF is not a database).
>
>     >  2. What are my obligations in terms of ODbL license? What (if
>     anything)
>
>     >     do I have to provide, publish etc.?
>
>     Recipients of the PDF, i.e. anyone who views iStockPhoto, would
>     have the right to ask you to hand over the database on which the
>     map is based. You would then have the option of saying "it's plain
>     OSM, simply download it from <X>", or actually give them the data.
>
>     If the closed software you have used did not work on the data
>     directly, but on some sort of pre-processed or augmented data,
>     then *that* would be the data you have to hand over.
>
>          3. Would there be a difference if it was PNG/SVG instead of PDF?
>
>
>     I don't think so.
>
>          4. Can the buyer of such a map then password-protect his own
>         resulting
>
>             work (which includes that map)?
>
>
>     Yes. You will have sold him the work under the condition that he
>     continues to attribute OSM, but other than that he has no
>     obligations (unless you put some in).
>
>     If you sell the work with an OSM attribution but without the
>     condition to perpetuate that attribution, you may be in breach of
>     ODbL or you may not; this depends on how you interpret the
>     "suitably calculated to make anyone ... aware" clause.
>
>     Bye
>     Frederik
>
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