[OSM-legal-talk] FW: OSM place name data from Turkey

[Paul Norman]

> From: Simon Poole [mailto:simon at poole.ch]
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 11:58 PM
> To: legal-talk at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FW: OSM place name data from Turkey
> 
> Hi Paul
> 
> Has anybody from the TR community tried to get permission from HGK (with
> a pointer that the data is freely available elsewhere and that removing
> it would add up to deleting and re-adding exactly the same data)? Having
> such permission would seem to be the best solution right now.

People have tried contacting other agencies, but to the best of my
knowledge, no one has had any success with HGK.

To be clear, it's not the UN who needs to be contacted to get permission,
it's HGK.

> 2nd question why would somebody re add the HGK data if the same data is
> available from a different agency? Potentially the solution would be to
> redact and add the OK data at the same time.

We don't have the technical means to do anything but a redaction through the
bot, and I don't see us developing it.

How about this. My understanding of the workflow of the user is that they
took the HGK data (names, object type and location) and then moved it to
agree with imagery, then uploaded, creating v1 of the nodes.

The names obviously have to go, but if they've verified the object type and
location against imagery, could we keep that?

If so, could we then delete the village names but leave the other tags,
redacting the versions of the node with the names?

I'd also want to verify that the nodes were moved by matching against the
original data. Of course, v2 and later nodes might be too complicated to
sort out. About 90% of the nodes are v1, and all the nodes redacted so far
have been v1. It'd likely be possible to apply the same logic to the
already-redacted nodes.

Does this sound legally sound?