[OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Thu Feb 28 10:12:17 UTC 2013


The use of the term "Database" in an intellectual property context has
essentially nothing to do with the CS/IT concept of a database. The
statement on the wiki is correct, and Alexs statement was a bit misleading.

I don't think this discussion has made any progress since the last time
it came up.  I'm still waiting for a concrete (geocoding) use case which
we would reasonably want to allow without triggering share-a-like.

Simon

 
Am 28.02.2013 05:54, schrieb Jake Wasserman:
> Alex,
> I'm a little confused.  The way I interpret your comment, merely
> storing ODbL and non-ODbL data in the same database triggers share
> alike.  But on the use cases wiki page
> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/License/Use_Cases), Case 4 says:
> 'It makes no difference whether you store the data sets separately, or
> together in the same "database" software, whether that is a RDBMS,
> NOSQL, filesystem or anything else. So long as the other data isn't
> derived from OSM, the result is a Collective Database, not a
> Derivative Database.'  In other words, storing ODbL and non-ODbL data
> together does not trigger share alike.
>
> Just trying to get some clarification.
>
> Thanks,
> Jake
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Alex Barth <alex at mapbox.com
> <mailto:alex at mapbox.com>> wrote:
>
>     Rob - as long as you don't mix ODbL data and other data in the
>     same database, ODbL's share alike cause doesn't kick in. So using
>     the OSM tiles on your web site doesn't mean that data in your web
>     site is affected. I recommend reading the ODbL, it's pretty clear
>     that way http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/
>
>     (And yes, I know, an open license shouldn't be that long and that
>     complicated, but that's another story).
>
>
>     On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Rob <smarttiki at gmail.com
>     <mailto:smarttiki at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         >> It would appear that any and all data associated with a
>         >> website or mobile app becomes fair game once OSM data is used.
>
>         > What? No. No, that isn't true. I'm no fan of share-alike but
>         that is
>         > trivially disprovable.
>
>         Where is the line in the sand?
>
>         For example I have a website which is driven by several
>         databases whichinclude everything from website members info t
>
>         I then integrate OSM into the website by including interactive
>         map tiles, address searches (geocoding), POI placement /
>         inclusion, routing, etc...
>
>         Sent from my iPhone
>
>         On Feb 27, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Richard Fairhurst
>         <richard at systemed.net <mailto:richard at systemed.net>> wrote:
>
>         > WhereAmI wrote:
>         >> It would appear that any and all data associated with a
>         >> website or mobile app becomes fair game once OSM
>         >> data is used.
>         >
>         > What? No. No, that isn't true. I'm no fan of share-alike but
>         that is
>         > trivially disprovable.
>         >
>         > Richard
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
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