[OSM-legal-talk] Using data from Ville de Montréal

[Jo]

The way I read that 4th clause, it should be enough to add

*Contient des données reproduites, modifiées, traduites ou distribuées
« telles quelles » avec la permission de la Ville de Montréal.

**Ce produit contient des données accordées sous licence « telles quelles »
aux termes de l’accord de licence d’utilisation des données de la Ville de
Montréal. L’octroi de la licence ne constitue pas une approbation du
produit par la Ville de Montréal.

*
*Openstreetmap contains data integrated with other data with permission
from the city of Montreal. This agreement does not mean Openstreetmap is
endorsed by the city of Montreal.

Maybe you can come up with a better translation. I redacted it to the
essence. (Fortunately I didn't end up with 'mostly harmless')

to this page:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors

Once you add that, send them a message asking whether this is enough for
them in terms of attribution and if not, what would need to be changed. If
it's not enough and they need to change the license before reuse in
Openstreetmap becomes acceptable, you can remove it once again. Or you can
send them a message asking how to phrase it before adding it to the wiki.

What we do with data from Brussels is to add ref:UrbIS to each object,
which will make it easier to compare future versions, keep them up to date
and detect vandalism or editor's mistakes. We also add source=UrbIS as a
tag on the changeset, but all that is for internal use. The text on *
*http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors is the source reference
for the public.

Jo

*
2013/6/6 Guillaume Pratte <guillaume at guillaumepratte.net>

> Hello,
>
> The Ville de Montréal has some interesting data available under their own
> licence:
>
>     http://donnees.ville.montreal.qc.ca/licence/licence-texte-complet/
>
> However clause 4 of the licence (attribution) is more restrictive than the
> terms of the ODbL, and thus the data cannot be used in OSM.
>
> Since this licence can and will change in the future (the city want to
> make it evolve to be on pair with other big North American cities), we
> would need a more permanent and explicit authorization from the city to use
> its data within OSM.
>
> Surely this situation is not the first of its kind to happen regarding
> OSM. Are there examples of how this was handled with other data sources?
>
> What would be the general guidelines to suggest to the city for such a
> legal document to authorize contributions of its data to OSM?
>
> Should the city somehow allow explicitly the relicensing of its data under
> the ODbL for the OpenSteetMap project?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Guillaume Pratte
>
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