[OSM-legal-talk] [GIS-Kosova] OSM road network for Kosova

Bekim Kajtazi bekim.kajtazi at gmail.com
Thu Mar 7 14:06:49 UTC 2013


Hello Simone,

Thanks for getting back on this one. *Well, I **was never contacted by
anyone about the license.* Nevertheless, once I noticed the data missing
from the map I tried to reach out to those that I knew in the community.
Mike DuPont tried to help and Michael Collinson was looking into it [see
email reply from him dated  21/Sept/2012], yet nothing was resolved.

I just feel bad and is disappointing that all that hard work on digitizing
the data [it took over a year to trace all those routs and roads from 25k
topo map] at first, and then all the correcting it and [re]tracing by
volunteers it was lost! Totally not in the spirit of OPEN if you ask me.

Best,
Bekim


On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 3:49 AM, Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> wrote:

>
> Bekim
>
> The basic issue is likely to be that we never received permission to
> distribute the original imported data with the ODbL implying that the date
> had to be removed prior to the licence change. The redaction process was
> designed to preserve as much work as possible is such situations, but for
> example if the original data had road names those will have not survived
> the redaction.
>
> The consequences of not agreeing to the CTs and/or not getting permission
> for continuing distribution of imported data were very clear to the
> relevant contributors and their failure to do so is something you should
> take up with them.
>
> Simon
>
>
> Am 04.03.2013 15:31, schrieb Bekim Kajtazi:
>
> Hello Michael,
>
> Just to let you know that I never heard back from anyone on the issue of
> the road data for Kosovo.
> I am not sure how things work, but I was very unhappy that all that data
> was removed after hundreds of work hours made by many volunteers in Kosova
> to update the original dataset which was coming from a dated source. Now I
> see the maps has a lost of new roads but the old dataset is not
> incorporated, so not sure if anything can be done at all if there's a
> possibility to combine something.
>
> Any advise, recommendation would be welcome.
>
> Best,
> Bekim
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Michael Collinson <mike at ayeltd.biz>wrote:
>
>>  Hi Bekim,
>>
>>  If nobody else gives you feedback I will do so next week. I am away at
>> the moment.
>>
>>  Regards,
>> Michael Collinson
>>
>>
>>
>> On 20 Sep 2012, at 19:11, Bekim Kajtazi <bekim.kajtazi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Thanks Mike,
>>
>> Hopefully someone will send some feedback.
>>
>> Best,
>> Bekim
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Mike Dupont <
>> jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I dont understand that myself, it seems a bit fuzzy to me but this is
>>> the right mailing list and I hope you will get some feedback,
>>> thanks
>>> mike
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Bekim Kajtazi <bekim.kajtazi at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Ok but I don't know how to go about and do that! That's my problem.
>>> > Where is the starting point?
>>> >
>>> > I am ready to approve, sign, confirm anything required!
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Bekim
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Mike Dupont
>>> > <jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Bekim,
>>> >> I have been working on understanding the new license even today.
>>> >> it is cc-by-sa + database rights (odbl) + the right for osm to change
>>> >> the licence at will in the future.
>>> >>
>>> >> basically you need to grant the osm the rights to use the data,
>>> >> Michael can give you more info about this,
>>> >>
>>> >> thanks,
>>> >>
>>> >> mike
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Bekim Kajtazi <
>>> bekim.kajtazi at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > Gent's,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Some days ago  I noticed that all those detailed roads that were on
>>> OSM
>>> >> > in
>>> >> > Kosova were removed.
>>> >> > Does anyone have any information, like when? why? were removed.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I am about to contact OSM and any assistance and additional
>>> information
>>> >> > is
>>> >> > welcome!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Best,
>>> >> > Bekim
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
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