[OSM-legal-talk] Using Google Street View to perform "virtual survey"

Eugene Alvin Villar seav80 at gmail.com
Sat Apr 5 23:24:46 UTC 2014


FWIW, I agree with you that it should not be a case of copyright
infringement to obtain uncopyrightable facts from copyroghted sources.

Here's a blog post that even argues that it is OK to trace from Google's
satellite imagery: http://www.systemed.net/blog/legacy/100.html

But OSM does not operate this way. We aim to be whiter than white, and not
dabble in legal shades of gray. Even if *you* think that it is legally OK
to copy from someone, you shouldn't do it unless you have *permission* to
do so, or if a court decision says *exactly* that it is OK to copy stuff
for OSM.


On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Paulo Carvalho <paulo.r.m.carvalho at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> You may find more discussion of this topic on this OSM help page:
>>
>> https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/710/can-i-use-google-streetview-to-help-create-maps
>
>
> I see many people agree that we can use the images to access reality.
>  This does not mean we're using the images themselves, which is copyrighted
> work.
>
>
>> Also, somebody has asked Google regarding Street View. Here is Ed Parsons'
>> answer: "Checking the odd street names is OK. But every street name I
>> would suggest
>> >* would represent a bulk feed."*
>
>
> With all due respect, this is plain wrong.  Anyone who dealt with
> databases know that a bulk load is an automated insertion of copious
> ammount of data.  Browsing photos to manually write down signs and house
> numbers is far from bulk load.
>
>
>>  And "bulk feed" refers to the Terms of Service: 2(e) [You may not] use
>> the Products in a manner that gives you or any other
>> >* person access to mass downloads or bulk feeds of any Content,
>> including but *>* not limited to numerical latitude or longitude
>> coordinates, imagery, and *>* visible map data * Hope that helps.
>
>
> It says "imagery".  I'm not telling to download and use the images
> elsewhere.  Reading a sign in SV photos and taking a note is different from
> copying them.
>
> I'm still not convinced.
>
> thanks,
>
> Paulo
>
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