[OSM-legal-talk] Using Google Street View to perform "virtual survey"
mike at ayeltd.biz
Mon Apr 7 16:04:58 UTC 2014
I think the License Working Group would echo exactly what Jonathan says.
While it does not solve the problem of being able to map where there are
no mappers, may I also seize the opportunity to promote John McKerrell's
excellent OpenStreetView? It is a great under-exploited tool!
Single photo and bulk upload works well. I am slowly adding my
collection of 40,000+ OSM survey photos in the hope that other mappers
will be able squeeze out even more map detail. You can choose from a
variety of licenses for the actual photo, but the photo metadata is CC0.
On 07/04/2014 17:16, jonathan wrote:
> This is obviously a legal grey area and until it ends up in court I
> suspect it will remain a grey area.
> However, I feel what IS black and white is that if we were to
> "officially" use Google StreetView or any non-open source to build our
> data then we should expect a lawsuit from Google or any other owner of
> said service/medium/technology. Also, we should remember that their
> legal budget will be much bigger than ours.
> In my opinion, we can only have one stance and that is such services
> are not available for us to use as a source for our database.
> We should, however, approach Google et al and ask them if they
> prohibit such use, I'm sure they'll say that we can't use it, but at
> least we'll know.
> To use any such service without express permission risks EVERYTHING,
> we would be leaving a door open for Google et al to file against us in
> the future and OSM could just descend into a legal black hole. Google
> would love that!
> We MUST be whiter than white. The Open in OpenStreetMap is a
> responsibility as well as a right and to protect that right we must
> act responsibly.
> On 05/04/2014 16:50, Paulo Carvalho wrote:
>> Dear fellow mappers,
>> Let me present myself to you. I'm a OSM mapper from the Brazil
>> community and a question rose there which caused a split in the group
>> regarding Google Street View to perform "virtual surveys", such as
>> taking notes of house numbers and plotting them in the maps.
>> After reading
>> , I was pondering about the impossibility of copyright and licenses
>> apply to facts and reality (not regarding philosophical aspects).
>> Google Street View photos depict reality or facts, thus I could
>> use them to observe reality and derive interpretations which would be
>> genuine creative work. It would be illegal to use the images in
>> Mapillary, for instance, but the facts depicted by the images are not
>> property of Google.
>> Your thoughts, please
>> Paulo Carvalho
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