[OSM-legal-talk] OSM's future Was: Re: Proposed "Metadata"-Guideline

[Steve Coast]

> On Oct 12, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Alex Barth <alex at mapbox.com> wrote:
> How is it a bad thing that OSM is used in more places where it can't be used today and hence grows?

It isn’t, as we discussed before. It’s - again - a question of what changes at what cost as discussed. In the past it’s mostly been about fundamentally changing the license so we can help a couple of people which is kinda disproportionate.

> The lack of clarity around use cases like geocoding infects other datasets with ODBL is killing the incentives for businesses, NGOs and government to contribute to OSM.

All you have to do is present some evidence for this beyond one academic project this week.

If it were me I’d go get an open letter drafted from the top 10 or 20 real users of OSM (mapbox, telenav, maps.me, mapzen, navmii...) and get their CEOs or GCs to sign off on it, about how the license is stopping them. But I don’t think you can. I think it’s much, much easier to get agreement on the lack of turn restrictions in the data, or the lack of point geocodes, I think we’d all sign that letter.

> Let's clarify the important use cases, leave share alike intact and we all have a better OSM. Looking back over to the other thread, I don't think we're that far off from each other: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2015-October/008283.html <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2015-October/008283.html>
I think we’re agreed on that, it’s just not where the conversations over time have ranged, just one email ago you wanted to compare OSM and PD again :-)

I’d like to bet you a steak dinner on what happens after this change. It feels like you’re saying that large numbers of governments, NGOs and businesses (from above) are going to show up and start putting all their geocoding data in OSM. If that’s correct let’s agree a date and amount of data under/over.

Best

Steve
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