[OSM-legal-talk] New data source

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Sat Jan 18 09:58:50 UTC 2020


I would suggest that you give a heads up on talk-gb in any case so that
other UK contributors know what's going on.

Simon

Am 18.01.2020 um 01:56 schrieb Cj Malone:
> Thanks Kathleen,
>
> I'll add attribution to the wiki tomorrow.
>
> My current intention isn't to automatically import, but rather
> generate a report where I can see where OSM names differ, then
> manually change the names is OSM via JOSM on a per node basis. Similar
> to https://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/ for food hygiene data.
>
> Based on my limited survey of differences in OSM data and SV data,
> theirs has been more accurate. Not really surprising, since it's there
> network, and most of the OSM data hasn't been updated since the naptan
> import nearly a decade ago.
>
> I don't think I will be making the report public, although since the
> data is not unique to the local bus operator, but rather their service
> providers. I could make reports for all areas available if desired.
> https://www.discoverpassenger.com/2019/06/25/open-data-portals-go-ahead-group/
>
> I don't really think this is an import, but rather "machine assisted"
> (if that's a thing in OSM vocabulary) I will however message the
> import mailing list to check there opinion on this. And I'll ask them
> if there is any point moving to the newer tagging method of
> public_transport=platform, as well as (for legacy reasons)
> highway=bus_stop.
>
> Thank you
>
> On 17 January 2020 21:28:16 GMT, Kathleen Lu via legal-talk
> <legal-talk at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
>     Hi Cj,
>     Easiest method would be for you to update
>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors with this
>     information.
>     (But please do note the import guidelines if you are thinking
>     about importing)
>     Best,
>     Kathleen
>
>     On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:26 AM Cj Malone <CjMalone at mail.com
>     <mailto:CjMalone at mail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Hello,
>
>         I recently saw that some bus stop names are out of date in my
>         area. I
>         updated the one I saw (
>         https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/533814248/history)
>
>         But the local bus operator offers this data under Open Government
>         License Version 3.0. (https://www.islandbuses.info/open-data)
>
>         As far as I understand it OGL can be used in OSM, but needs
>         attribution. Is this correct? How can OSM add the attribution
>         so I can
>         start using this dataset?
>
>         Once someone verifies that I can use this dataset I intend to
>         correct
>         any OSM names, add fixme tags to any this I don't think exist
>         any more.
>         And possibly add naptan:AtcoCode=x to nodes that don't have it
>         in OSM
>         but do in the Southern Vectis dataset. And add
>         "SouthernVectis" to the
>         source tag which would usually mean, source=naptan_import ->
>         source=naptan_import;SouthernVectis.
>
>         Thanks
>         Cj
>
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