[OSM-legal-talk] A questionable data source usage in Haiti in 2010

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Sun Jul 25 09:37:17 UTC 2021


Am 25.07.2021 um 11:23 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk:
> Hmm, maybe detailing this tag to
> source=Special Google Haiti imagery
> would be helpful?

Given that changeset tags cannot be changed after the fact, I'm not sure 
how you expect this to work outside of using a time machine.

Simon

>
> I also created https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:source%3DGoogle 
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:source%3DGoogle>
> to make easier to locate this email
>
> Jul 25, 2021, 03:12 by mikel.maron at gmail.com:
>
>     We received explicit permission from Google to use the imagery
>     released in the Haiti earthquake response for editing in OSM. That
>     is documented in this mailing list post linked from the wiki page
>
>     https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-January/047236.html
>     <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-January/047236.html>
>
>     Mikel
>
>     On Saturday, July 24, 2021, 10:19 AM, mappinglander
>     <mappinglander at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         Hello,
>         There has recently been a discussion in OSM Discord about
>         source=Google tags
>         <https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/source=Google%2C
>         2010-01-21> in Haiti. The usage seems to have documented at
>         wiki
>         <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Imagery_and_data_sources/Old#Google_Imagery>,
>         but seems like there isn't any explicit clauses about allowing
>         to OSM on the linked mailinglist posts, and the Google page
>         says "Use restricted to non-commercial use in or related to
>         Haitian relief efforts." Also, as that was before the CC BY-SA
>         and ODbL switch in 2012, I and other users have expressed some
>         doubts about whether we are still having permission to use
>         that source on OSM. I personally haven't contacted Mikel yet,
>         or the other people involved in the discussion and approved
>         the usage on OSM.
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