[OSM-legal-talk] A questionable data source usage in Haiti in 2010

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Sun Jul 25 09:44:19 UTC 2021


I was thinking about 1000+ elements having it as an element tag,
hopefully this is used where this specific permission qualified.

For changesets leaving comment explaining situation may be helpful
but would spam mappers who edited then.


Jul 25, 2021, 11:37 by simon at poole.ch:

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> Am 25.07.2021 um 11:23 schrieb Mateusz      Konieczny via legal-talk:
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>> Hmm, maybe detailing this tag to
>> source=Special Google Haiti imagery
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> Given that changeset tags cannot be changed after the fact, I'm      not sure how you expect this to work outside of using a time      machine. 
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> Simon
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>> I also created >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:source%3DGoogle
>> to make easier to locate this email
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>> Jul 25, 2021, 03:12 by >> mikel.maron at gmail.com>> :
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>>> We received explicit permission from Google to use the          imagery released in the Haiti earthquake response for editing          in OSM. That is documented in this mailing list post linked          from the wiki page
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>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-January/047236.html
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>>> Mikel
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>>> On Saturday, July 24, 2021, 10:19            AM, mappinglander >>> <mappinglander at gmail.com> <mailto:mappinglander at gmail.com>>>>  wrote:
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>>>> Hello,
>>>> There has recently been a discussion in OSM Discord                  about >>>> source=Google                    tags <https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/source=Google%2C                    2010-01-21>>>>>  in Haiti. The usage seems to have                  documented at >>>> wiki <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Imagery_and_data_sources/Old#Google_Imagery>>>>> , but seems like                  there isn't any explicit clauses about allowing to OSM                  on the linked mailinglist posts, and the Google page                  says "Use restricted to non-commercial use in or                  related to Haitian relief efforts." Also, as that was                  before the CC BY-SA and ODbL switch in 2012, I and                  other users have expressed some doubts about whether                  we are still having permission to use that source on                  OSM. I personally haven't contacted Mikel yet, or the                  other people involved in the discussion and approved                  the usage on OSM.
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