[OSM-legal-talk] A questionable data source usage in Haiti in 2010
Mateusz Konieczny
matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Sun Jul 25 09:44:19 UTC 2021
I was thinking about 1000+ elements having it as an element tag,
hopefully this is used where this specific permission qualified.
For changesets leaving comment explaining situation may be helpful
but would spam mappers who edited then.
Jul 25, 2021, 11:37 by simon at poole.ch:
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> Am 25.07.2021 um 11:23 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk:
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>> Hmm, maybe detailing this tag to
>> source=Special Google Haiti imagery
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> Given that changeset tags cannot be changed after the fact, I'm not sure how you expect this to work outside of using a time machine.
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> Simon
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>> I also created >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:source%3DGoogle
>> to make easier to locate this email
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>> Jul 25, 2021, 03:12 by >> mikel.maron at gmail.com>> :
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>>> We received explicit permission from Google to use the imagery released in the Haiti earthquake response for editing in OSM. That is documented in this mailing list post linked from the wiki page
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>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-January/047236.html
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>>> Mikel
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>>> On Saturday, July 24, 2021, 10:19 AM, mappinglander >>> <mappinglander at gmail.com> <mailto:mappinglander at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
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>>>> Hello,
>>>> There has recently been a discussion in OSM Discord about >>>> source=Google tags <https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/source=Google%2C 2010-01-21>>>>> in Haiti. The usage seems to have documented at >>>> wiki <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Imagery_and_data_sources/Old#Google_Imagery>>>>> , but seems like there isn't any explicit clauses about allowing to OSM on the linked mailinglist posts, and the Google page says "Use restricted to non-commercial use in or related to Haitian relief efforts." Also, as that was before the CC BY-SA and ODbL switch in 2012, I and other users have expressed some doubts about whether we are still having permission to use that source on OSM. I personally haven't contacted Mikel yet, or the other people involved in the discussion and approved the usage on OSM.
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