[OSM-newbies] cycle map rendering

[Thomas Meller]

Obviously, each country has it's own set of rules for some flavours of ways. Look at them as a basket filled with rights and physical variations.

I have the idea of a 'stylesheet"-like function: define several baskets for international use and fill them with adequate tags for each country, addressed by the way's location (right/left of the country border)

Then you only have to fill a basket once per country and you can use the same basket in every country, or at least in lots of them.

ex: a track in Norway surely means something different than in Niger.
Yet, it is a track in both countries.
The same applies to paths without traffic signs.

I see the need for some additional API functions.

The current solution is, simply said, far too abstract and too complicated. It spoils the fun off mapping.
I don't think 5,000 active mappers are enough to make a world map.
But lots of them seem to think it's okay to scare potential newbies away.

til next,
Thomas

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:13:36 -0500
> Von: Alex Mauer <hawke at hawkesnest.net>
> An: newbies at openstreetmap.org
> Betreff: Re: [OSM-newbies] cycle map rendering

> On 09/15/2009 05:31 PM, Thomas Meller wrote:
> 
> > 'Widmen' does not exactly mean 'bestimmen', but it's really close.
> > You could write books about such things if you're a linguist.
> 
> So, “close enough” in this case, I guess.
> 
> > You can create whole lots of permutations by using the foot=, bicycle=
> ... and access= tags. To be honest, I do not think this is a recipe for
> success.
> 
> There are (ideally) as many permutations of access-family tags as there
> are meanings for signs indicating route permissions.  This is what is
> needed in order to describe the permissions along any given route.
> 
> > Why do we have a motorway-type?
> > Couldn't we use 'highway=way' and 'motor=designated'
> 
> To describe the permissions/laws, and get some workable routing, sure.
> (You’d also need an “access=no” tag).
> 
> But there are other things to take into consideration.  Some people call
> it “loose description of physical structure”, others call it
> “relative
> importance” and recognize that common relative importance will reflect a
> common physical structure.
> 
> For paths, there is no physical difference, or difference in importance
> between a “bike path” and a “foot path” – it’s only a
> difference in
> permissions.  Thus, the same highway tag can be used for each.
> 
> > You see, I am not content with the current solution.
> 
> Where is the current solution inadequate?  What do you propose instead?
> 
> –Alex Mauer “hawke”
> 

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