[OSM-newbies] Welcome WG meeting notes

[Severin MENARD]

Hi all,

I find this Welcome Group inbteresting and would like to join the next
meeting. Apart my own experience of OSM contributor, I might bring my point
of view of Hottie involved in teaching people in developing countries + I
also particiapted in some LeanrOSM writing.

SIncerely,


Severin

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org> wrote:

> Hey all,
> Thanks for the input so far. I am thinking of putting together a
> survey for newbies. I will use this as input. The results of the
> survey will help up focus our efforts better, such is my hope at
> least!
> All the best for 2013!
> Martijn
>
> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Dudley Ibbett
> <dudleyibbett at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > In answer to the two questions.
> >
> > Not from the slippy map but from downloading the map onto my gps and
> > discovering it was missing some paths and there were no field
> boundaries.  I
> > will never be able to afford OS 1:25 maps for my gps but OSM will
> eventually
> > provide this.
> >
> > Like many I will always try something first and only get out the
> > instructions/guide if I have to.   If it were shorter it would make no
> > difference to this.  Worse case is when you do have to read the
> > guide/instructions and you still can not work out what to do!
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dudley
> >
> >
> >> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 00:15:29 +0100
> >> From: michael at elfu.de
> >> To: newbies at openstreetmap.org
> >> Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] Welcome WG meeting notes
> >
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> > In the mean time, I think we should use this channel to carve out our
> >> > strategy and objectives. To help with that, let me ask newbies in this
> >> > list: what obstacles did you face in your first steps with OSM?
> >>
> >> this is an incomplete summary of 'obstacles' I faced when I started with
> >> OSM, first as slippy map user, then as a mapper:
> >>
> >> I started to use OSM in 2009 with the purpose to find new bicycle routes
> >> on the slippy map. At that time I just wanted to use OSM maps, not to
> >> contribute. But already there I faced obstacle 1, the map key:
> >>
> >> O1: I was confused that the key (legend) of the slippy map is not
> >> complete. For example the various mapnik tracktypes are rendered in
> >> brown colour either as solid line or dashes / dotted line. The map key
> >> only shows a dashed line, but the map location I was viewing had a lot
> >> of solid lines.
> >>
> >> It took a few weeks until I figured out that I can use the MapFeatures
> >> page as a better reference to understand better the items rendered on
> >> the map. I don't remember why it was so hard to find that page. Maybe
> >> because it's not linked from the map page, maybe because the term "Map
> >> Features" did not mean anything to me a german native speaker.
> >>
> >> In mid 2012, when I started to become an active mapper with JOSM, the
> >> next obstacles have been:
> >>
> >> O2: I wanted to map a new road, nonexisting in OSM at that time. I did
> >> my own gps recording on the new road. When I wanted to add it via JOSM,
> >> I thought I can upload the GPS track directly as a way, but I couldn't
> >> find how to do that in JOSM. When I found the JOSM feature: "Convert GPS
> >> track into data layer" the editor gave me a warning, that this should be
> >> avoided. After that I went back to the wiki to read how to map roads. At
> >> first I didn't get the point why I first should upload my GPS track to
> >> OSM, but not use it as new data for the map? Then, after more careful
> >> reading of the beginners guide, I got the point.
> >>
> >> O3: I tried to insert a new track and it wasn't clear to me what are the
> >> rules to connect new tracks to existing tracks. After reading the
> >> Beginners_Guide_1.3.1 (General tips for adding roads or other ways) it
> >> was clear to me.
> >>
> >> I think two questions conclude from this:
> >> - Are there more mappers like me, who became a mapper through the mere
> >> usage of the slippy map?
> >> - Is the beginners guide still to comprehensive for impatient newbies
> >> like me who do not carefully read the beginner's guide?
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
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