[OSM-newbies] newbies Digest, Vol 95, Issue 4

[Philip Barnes]

On Tue, 2015-04-14 at 22:27 -0500, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> You are the first person in the thread to use the term footbridge, so the footbridge came from you.
> 
> 
True, they said 'Lock Gate Bridge' which i assume to mean a bridge that
is near the lock gates.

Phil (trigpoint)


> On April 14, 2015 7:51:43 AM CDT, phil at trigpoint.me.uk wrote:
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> > > >     1. Mapping a cycle path across lock gates (john whelan)
> > > >     2. Re: Mapping a cycle path across lock gates (Philip Barnes)
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> > > > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 08:12:49 -0400
> > > > From: john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
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> > > > Subject: [OSM-newbies] Mapping a cycle path across lock gates
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> > > > The local city has recommended cycle paths one of which crosses a
> > canal via
> > > > the tops of the lock gates.
> > > >
> > > > So steps up to the top of the lock gate, and a max width of .5
> > meters and
> > > > the path varies according to which pair of the three pairs of lock
> > gates
> > > > happen to be closed.  The maximum width is important as it means
> > tricycles
> > > > are unable to use this route.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions on how it should be mapped?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks John
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> > > > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 13:30:52 +0100
> > > > From: Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk>
> > > > To: newbies at openstreetmap.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] Mapping a cycle path across lock gates
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> > > > On Sat, 2015-04-11 at 08:12 -0400, john whelan wrote:
> > > >> The local city has recommended cycle paths one of which crosses a
> > > >> canal via the tops of the lock gates.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> So steps up to the top of the lock gate, and a max width of .5
> > meters
> > > >> and the path varies according to which pair of the three pairs of
> > lock
> > > >> gates happen to be closed.  The maximum width is important as it
> > means
> > > >> tricycles are unable to use this route.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Any suggestions on how it should be mapped?
> > > >>
> > > > That is madness, ask for a copy of the risk assessment.
> > > >
> > > > I have never come across a cyclepath doing this, but do know of a
> > public
> > > > footpath that crosses a lock gate. There is a second side barrier
> > on
> > > > that gate for safety reasons, but it a bit scary getting a dog
> > over.
> > > >
> > > > I would map the section over the gates as a footway with
> > > > bicycle=dismount. That way routers will be deterred from using it
> > and
> > > > find a more suitable route.
> > > >
> > > > Phil (trigpoint)
> > > >
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> > > 
> > > If you take a look at this URL:
> > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/53.42176/-2.99341&layers=C
> > > 
> > > you will see a footpath crossing the canal by means of either of two
> > 
> > > lockgates. I used to use these on a bike regularly. The lock gate
> > bridge 
> > > in this case felt entirely safe and I saw many cyclists use the
> > route. 
> > > The towpath should probably in fact have a bicycle=yes tag - if I
> > recall 
> > > correctly there is signage for bikes here showing a route between
> > Bootle 
> > > and Liverpool City Centre.
> > > 
> > > bogzab
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Dr Bogumil N Zaba
> > > 
> > > 
> > Where did the footbridge come from, there was no footbridge mentioned
> > in this thread.
> > 
> > Phil (trigpoint ) 
>