[OSM-newbies] newbies Digest, Vol 95, Issue 4

[John F. Eldredge]

You are the first person in the thread to use the term footbridge, so the footbridge came from you.


On April 14, 2015 7:51:43 AM CDT, phil at trigpoint.me.uk wrote:
> On Tue Apr 14 11:10:51 2015 GMT+0100, Bogus Zaba wrote:
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> > >     1. Mapping a cycle path across lock gates (john whelan)
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> > > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 08:12:49 -0400
> > > From: john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
> > > To: Help for newbie mappers <newbies at openstreetmap.org>
> > > Subject: [OSM-newbies] Mapping a cycle path across lock gates
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> > > The local city has recommended cycle paths one of which crosses a
> canal via
> > > the tops of the lock gates.
> > >
> > > So steps up to the top of the lock gate, and a max width of .5
> meters and
> > > the path varies according to which pair of the three pairs of lock
> gates
> > > happen to be closed.  The maximum width is important as it means
> tricycles
> > > are unable to use this route.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions on how it should be mapped?
> > >
> > > Thanks John
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> > > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 13:30:52 +0100
> > > From: Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk>
> > > To: newbies at openstreetmap.org
> > > Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] Mapping a cycle path across lock gates
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> > > On Sat, 2015-04-11 at 08:12 -0400, john whelan wrote:
> > >> The local city has recommended cycle paths one of which crosses a
> > >> canal via the tops of the lock gates.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> So steps up to the top of the lock gate, and a max width of .5
> meters
> > >> and the path varies according to which pair of the three pairs of
> lock
> > >> gates happen to be closed.  The maximum width is important as it
> means
> > >> tricycles are unable to use this route.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Any suggestions on how it should be mapped?
> > >>
> > > That is madness, ask for a copy of the risk assessment.
> > >
> > > I have never come across a cyclepath doing this, but do know of a
> public
> > > footpath that crosses a lock gate. There is a second side barrier
> on
> > > that gate for safety reasons, but it a bit scary getting a dog
> over.
> > >
> > > I would map the section over the gates as a footway with
> > > bicycle=dismount. That way routers will be deterred from using it
> and
> > > find a more suitable route.
> > >
> > > Phil (trigpoint)
> > >
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> > 
> > If you take a look at this URL:
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/53.42176/-2.99341&layers=C
> > 
> > you will see a footpath crossing the canal by means of either of two
> 
> > lockgates. I used to use these on a bike regularly. The lock gate
> bridge 
> > in this case felt entirely safe and I saw many cyclists use the
> route. 
> > The towpath should probably in fact have a bicycle=yes tag - if I
> recall 
> > correctly there is signage for bikes here showing a route between
> Bootle 
> > and Liverpool City Centre.
> > 
> > bogzab
> > 
> > -- 
> > Dr Bogumil N Zaba
> > 
> > 
> Where did the footbridge come from, there was no footbridge mentioned
> in this thread.
> 
> Phil (trigpoint ) 

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