[Osmf-talk] License with or without virus

80n 80n80n at gmail.com
Tue Dec 8 21:50:42 UTC 2009


On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:38 PM, SteveC <steve at asklater.com> wrote:

> Taking a few points:
>
> On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:33 PM, 80n wrote:
> > Not one single case has been presented where the intent of the CC BY-SA
> license has been abused.
>
> It took what, 3 decades or something for the GPL to be tested in court. You
> want to wait for that, or be proactive?
>
> In the meantime we have plenty of people avoiding OSM because of all the
> ambiguities, stretching back to ITN and before.
>
> ITN is an example of CC BY-SA being effective.  ITN chose not to abuse the
license and did not use our data.


>
>
>
>
> It's OK for you to admit that you don't have any actual cases to back up
> your assertions that CC BY-SA doesn't work for data, but it's not OK to use
> OpenStreetMap as an example of it not working because it quite clearly has
> worked very well for over five years.
>
> Horses and carts worked so well, why did people move to motorised vehicles?
> Because they were better.
>
>


> > Do you think OSM would be anything like as successful as it is if the
> license totally didn't work?
>
> I think social pressure can hold things together only so far, and that's
> what we're relying on.
>

Where's your evidence for this?  Social pressure builds civilisations.
Selfish interests destroy them.

Commercial interests will rip OSM apart much quicker than the community
spirit that built it.
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