[Osmf-talk] AoA Discussion
Nic Roets
nroets at gmail.com
Mon Jul 18 22:28:46 UTC 2011
Hello Chris,
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Chris Fleming <me at chrisfleming.org> wrote:
> Does anyone think that corporate members should get a vote?
Like Jonathan said, it will most likely have not influence on any
poll. And allowing corporate members makes the legal framework more
complicated.
> We did discuss contributions based membership and things start to get
> complicated very quickly, for example you state that we could use some
> simple formula to include and exclude people and from your comment it sounds
> like the formula might also include some kind of quality gate. Suddenly this
> isn't very simple and if you end up not getting a vote then you might claim
> not very fair? Who would decide what tags count and which ones don't, how
> would this be kept up to date? Might people start doing lots of pointless
> edits to get a vote?
>
> Again you specify putting a clause in to prevent sock puppets, but I'm not
> certain how easy it would be to do this automatically?
If someone wants to use sock puppets to influence a vote, he would
have to create thousands of accounts. So he will need thousands of IP
addresses and make hundreds of thousands of edits. If they are limited
to a small geographical area, you can detect him statistically. If
they are geographically spread out, someone will notice edits that
show no local insight and start asking questions. So the community is
the "quality gate".
It will be better than the current system where there are only 300?
members. Suppose I go to a bar and I tell everyone I'm running for
board membership. All they have to do is join, vote for me and I'll
throw them a bit party with free booze, I guess I'll get enough votes.
> Also map contributions aren't the only way in which members of the community
> contribute, if people are working hard on other things such working on
> organising a conference or local events, maintaining servers or writing code
> then why shouldn't these contributions count?
They do live in the real world where roads close temporarily, shops
open and close etc. So they will find something to contribute if they
are loyal to the project.
I sometimes do small amounts of tracing in remote areas, just so that
I can verify that the diff files are propagating properly. And I guess
other coders and sysadmins do too. Similarly, people organizing events
often need to demo stuff on the live server.
>
> Finally is the fee putting people off joining, £15 a year is a lot of money
> to some people.
I'm not 100% sure that it's the £15. Whatever the reason, membership
numbers are too small.
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